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10-27-2003, 07:06 AM | #1 |
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I have tried this elsewhere but wasn't able to get recognized.
I bought this pistol (or at least what's left of it) with information that it may be Tula-Korovin (TK) pistol. Later I was told (elsewhere) that it may be German PPK. Well I am sure it isn't as it is ~107mm long. I know it is hard to say anything because of it's condition (it has to be cleaned yet, esp. inside, as not much more can be done to make the outside look better, but I cannot afford to do that right now) but can someone possibly tell me what it is? Thank You in advance. Well, it's not Tokarev (TT) and it doesn't even resemble it. I have been told it may be Tula-Korovin. The name was something new to me, but later I've heard there was such pistol. Last edited by CtahhR; 11-28-2012 at 09:46 AM. |
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10-28-2003, 02:19 PM | #2 |
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Woa what a bad condition!!!!
:cry: I think the poor thing is dead now:cry: One thing is sure (well as far as i can say!) it s not a tk auto pistol because of the slide that is different even if the rear could look more or less similar. i try to include a tk photo for u to compare the trigger is different i would go for some browning or similar (unique etc...) 6.35 mm. Typical defense gun from 1900 or so to the 70's in europe Last edited by CtahhR; 11-28-2012 at 09:48 AM. |
10-30-2003, 02:43 AM | #3 |
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Thanks
Now I am sure it's not TK. I also thought of browing at first, but after a close comparison I wassure it's not it (although it is VERY similar - see photo below - it's not my photo, I have borrowed it). Wuold be a surprise if something like this wouldn't be dead after ~50 in swampish ground... I would be glad to see a photo of TK if You can post one. |
10-31-2003, 02:35 PM | #4 |
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Mystery pistol
Having carefully reviewed extensive literature now available on the development and production of Soviet semi-automatic pistols I think it is probably accurate to say that the relic frame, slide and receiver that you have is not a Soviet made weapon. As noted above, the general layout is not too far from the Tula Korovin, but far enough. It seems that it had wood grips, but that doesn't help too much because many pistols did (and still do).
I would look in the Browning direction; By that I mean Belgium, but that is a very big field. Many nations' armies bought some Belgian pistols in the 1930s (even Poland did, I think) and the Germans not only bought some earlier but confiscated many of them after their invasion. I may be perverted a bit, but I love examples like that; I would frame it with a big question mark under it. Dr. Bob |
10-31-2003, 07:43 PM | #5 |
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Al Muell,
i did post a picture of a tk automatic gun! But i must agree with you about the browning lead. Browning , at least in their usual known commercial version have a different end of slide, i mean round and not square;The problem is that many manufacturers did cheap copies or variation of successefull guns at hat time. So it wouldn't surprising to see a gun using most of the browning's parts, system , calibers , whole orparts with a slight difference in the design to escape the trademark laws. This guns could be manufactured under the name of unique , fn herstal or even ....browning (variation made for some special export market!). The general design of your gun showws that it is in NO way a combat pistol (size, trigger, and certainly caliber shot) so don't search in the military direction. Dr.Bob is right , germans confiscated loads of defense guns and even bought some ( some model could even been personaly purchased by officers- but i doubt this applied to 6.35 browning and derivated! sry ;)). You could give us a hint by measuring if possible the barrel's caliber wich i bet will be 6.35 mm!In this case it was so many models produced that it'll be really difficult to identify it. How come your friend could have confused it with a PP/PPK wich is one of the most famous pistol worldwide! It neither the size nor the shape! I could send you to some expert that will certainly recognize your gun at first glance but i don t want to be accused of turned this forum in a firearm one! As allready noone answer my post so i'll you imagine... regards |
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