Medal "For The Defence Of Odessa".

Tal Inbar · 05-11-2002, 06:28 PM

In "mondvor" web site there is a prototype medal of Odessa, with different ribbon and color of the medal:

Look at the lighthouse - it is very sharp, in contrast to the final version:

Chris · 05-12-2002, 06:32 AM

Hi Tal

I've just dug out my Russian and Soviet Military Awards book by V A Durov published by the Lenin State History museum, published 1990.

It is a very simple book compared to PD's and for that reason I had stowed it away.

But it has got pictues of some phototypes.

Please see below, it's not a brilliant picture but it is in stark contrast to your scans.

I would love to hear the story behind your observations.

regards chris

Tal Inbar · 05-12-2002, 06:39 AM

Hi

In the book "Medals of USSR" by Volodin/Merlay (see the reference section for more details) there are 3 prototypes for this medal. In fact, every medal "for defense" or "for liberation/capture" has some prototypes and scetches. There are unrealized orders as well, such as order of Bagration, which look very much like the order of glory.

Tal

Chris · 05-12-2002, 06:45 AM

Hi Tal

where did you get the pics from or are they yours.

I hope you're right because if you are, it means I have a phototype of the sevastopol medal? and not a bummer!

Cheers Chris

Tal Inbar · 11-19-2002, 12:48 PM

Odessa Prototype.

HuliganRS · 08-12-2003, 09:03 AM

IMHO,

The strike is too sharp!!! Unless this was one of the first 1000 or so, the strike shouldn't be this sharp. Even then, to achieve a relief like the one on this medal, the press needs to be set to higher striking pressure and strike the blank several times.

I would tender a guess and say it's a modern piece.

Rusty.

rboomsma · 11-05-2003, 06:54 PM

Hello All

I have been offered this Odessa medal, I am told it is a var 2
1960's issue.

Looks good to me, but what do I know.
What do you all think, and is $90usd a fair price?

Thanks

Bazanov · 11-06-2003, 10:07 AM

I think that 90 dollars is to much...
I sold one for 50$ and there are internet sites that sell them for well under 90$

HuliganRS · 11-06-2003, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bazanov
I think that 90 dollars is to much...
I sold one for 50$ and there are internet sites that sell them for well under 90$

I don't think $90 is a bad price. Besides it's very hard and next to difficult to find an original 1940's issue for under $100.

Rusty.

rboomsma · 11-06-2003, 11:37 AM

Okay, one more question, is not the var 2 harder to find as it was awarded to those that did not get one in the 1940's? For what ever reason.

I would think there is less var 2 than var 1's?

Paul McDaniels book does not mention this.

05-12-2002, 06:45 AM	#4
Chris Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 188	cheers Hi Tal where did you get the pics from or are they yours. I hope you're right because if you are, it means I have a phototype of the sevastopol medal? and not a bummer! Cheers Chris

08-12-2003, 09:03 AM	#6
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	IMHO, The strike is too sharp!!! Unless this was one of the first 1000 or so, the strike shouldn't be this sharp. Even then, to achieve a relief like the one on this medal, the press needs to be set to higher striking pressure and strike the blank several times. I would tender a guess and say it's a modern piece. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

11-06-2003, 10:07 AM	#8
Bazanov Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 84	I think that 90 dollars is to much... I sold one for 50$ and there are internet sites that sell them for well under 90$ __________________ /Fredrik

11-06-2003, 11:37 AM	#10
rboomsma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 65 Posts: 153	Odessa Medal Okay, one more question, is not the var 2 harder to find as it was awarded to those that did not get one in the 1940's? For what ever reason. I would think there is less var 2 than var 1's? Paul McDaniels book does not mention this. __________________ Best Regards Ron Boomsma

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Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Hi In the book "Medals of USSR" by Volodin/Merlay (see the reference section for more details) there are 3 prototypes for this medal. In fact, every medal "for defense" or "for liberation/capture" has some prototypes and scetches. There are unrealized orders as well, such as order of Bagration, which look very much like the order of glory. Tal

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