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Temporary award certificate
This one for The Capture of Budapest.
Dated 1945 and awarded to a Starshina (senior sergeant). Signed by a Colonel in the 2nd Ukrainian Front. Help with the Starshina's name would be appreciated and any corrections made. I'd like for this new thread to continue with us posting different temporary award certificates and discussing variations (of which there are many). With a dedicated thread perhaps we may be able to focus information in one place and enable n00bs (and vets, as well) in their attempts at identification.
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Re: Temporary award certificate
"Starshina" and "senior sergeant" - are two different ranks.
I see - guardian starshina Makuha Ivan Petrovich. |
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Re: Temporary award certificate
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Sergeant major (старшинa) then, correct? One grade above senior sergeant? New thread with link for Soviet AF ranks here: http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...ed-forces.html
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Re: Temporary award certificate
Hi Eric,
The Russians played around with their ranks throughout their history but generally the following list should hold true. Marshal of the Soviet Union General of the Army Colonel General Lieutenant General Major General Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Major Captain Senior Lieutenant Lieutenant Junior Lieutenant Warrant Officer or Praporshchik (post war rank 1972) Junior Warrant Officer or Podpraporshchik (post war rank 1972) Sergeant Major/Master Sergeant or Starshina Senior Sergeant Sergeant Junior Sergeant Gefreiter Private or Soldier, Reiter I have a few of these certificates - will post them when home for work tonight. Simon |
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Re: Temporary award certificate
Here are some of my temporary award certificates:
Shows three of the different forms of document. Simon |
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Re: Temporary award certificate
Hi Eric,
Yep both of your documents are temporary award certificates :thumbsup Simon Last edited by UQWozza; 02-25-2010 at 06:47 AM. |
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CSM temp cert
This is an example of a temporary certificate for a Combat Service Medal (often mis-identified as a military merit medal)
This was discussed in more depth here: http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...tml#post119538 I show this for comparison's sake. I hope I have identified both of my examples (above) correctly as actual "temporary award certificates".
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Re: Temporary award certificate
Eric, I'm not ignoring this thread and am looking for some of these that I know I have - somewhere.:confused: I did find a soldier's death notice from 1943 while digging around and I didn't know I had it, so at least that's cool.:D
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Re: Temporary award certificate
While not exactly what I was looking for I noticed that images 1 & 3 in post #10 "for budapest" are of the exact same document that I have posted in thread http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...documents.html post #5.
Notice the same 'control' number on the back: Г565269. Only the soldier's names, their officer's signatures (and presumably) the unit stamp are different. Interesting also is your CSM certificate has no serial number assigned to it despite being awarded in 1943.
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