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"unmedaled" campaigns
I have been wondering why some WWII campaigns were not conmemorated with medals, like the liberation of Romania, Bulgaria, Manchuria and Korea. Were those campaigns not so important or they just omitted them from the medal`s list?
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The wars with Finland did not get any specific medals either.... nor the anniversary "10 years of Victory".
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I would guess that the decision to institute a medal was totally political.
The capture/liberation series of medals seemed to involve politically/strategically important cities for the USSR after the war (generally). I don’t think Romania, Bulgaria, Manchuria and Korea were as important to the Soviets in the early post-war times as were Germany, Poland, Yugoslavia, and Czechoslovakia. As to the lack of the 10 years of victory in the GPW, 10 years would have been 1955, at which time the Soviets were doing rather well in spreading communism and making scientific advances. By 1965, things were arguably not as good, and perhaps the government felt a bit of rah-rah stuff was necessary to pep up morale? |
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Please, allow me to share my thoughts and ask questions on the subject.
Romania and Bulgaria were Germany's allies, not countries under the occupation. Both of them signed separate cease-fire agreements with the Soviet Union. Did Red Army actually fight for Bucharest and Sofia or simply march in following the diplomatic agreement? Manchuria and Korea were liberated during a lightning campaign that was over in a matter of weeks. Decision makers must have thought that "Victory over Japan" medal was sufficient to commemorate battles in the Far East. War with Finland was fought before the tradition to strike medals in honor of campaigns originated. Major engagements before Finnish War had their badges, not medals. Though Finland was beaten, Red Army suffered heavy casualties and failed to occupy the entire country. Stalin must have viewed the campaign as unworthy of even a badge. Besides, was the war with Finland supposed to be a prelude to a larger campaign? I don't want to advertise theories of a certain historian, but his arguments are worth consideration. So far I haven't been able to find acceptable counterarguments. He also offers his explanation for why '10 years V of Germany' medal was not established. Simon P.S. While I was writing this post, Eugene already answered my question about Bucharest and Sofia. Last edited by Simon; 09-14-2005 at 10:40 AM. |
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This is all very interesting stuff. To what does the above-referenced author attribute the lack of a 10-years-of-victory medal (I don't think I know the historan you are talking about)?
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Suvorov's conclusions are far from being the most shocking. One historian claims that entire Russian history, as we know it, was fabricated by Romanov dynasty and A. Nevsky was King Ghiz Khan, not a Russian knyaz. Surprisingly, G. Kasparov, the world chess champion, subscribes to this theory. |
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As for the purpose of the Winter war... I dont know for sure either, political and strategical reasons (Soviet demanded territories, access to naval bases and airfields etc etc like from the baltic states). It would be too long to debate here ![]() This is a very interesting thread though! Last edited by Tretov; 09-14-2005 at 01:06 PM. |
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