The History Of Suspension?

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

(...) Strange to see how the "Danish" style suspension is still prevailing in so many places which historically have no ties with Danmark.(...)

Hi Ctahhr,

Maybe I'm lost here, but what do you mean with this "Danish" style suspension ?

Cheers.

Ch.

[CtahhR]

This is the traditional Danish style of suspension as seen by this 1844 designed award.

If a more historically and culturally appropriately accurate award is suspended around the neck on a fine piece of string so be it. We must remember that Viet Nam has been heavily corrupted by the French Empire as well as the Soviet Empire which is why for some reason they now use the Latin alphabet rather than a locally devised script such as the Kingdoms of Thailand and Cambodia.

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

This is the traditional Danish style of suspension as seen by this 1844 designed award..

So.. This means that the 1943 Soviet style suspensions has been inspired by this Danish style... And the Rusian Empire as well...

I really don't know.. Why not...

Thanks for the explanation.
Cheers.

Ch.

[medals73]

Originally Posted by Christophe

So.. This means that the 1943 Soviet style suspensions has been inspired by this Danish style... And the Rusian Empire as well...

I really don't know.. Why not...

Thanks for the explanation.
Cheers.

Ch.

Sure, Denmark has been and is sooooo influential.

[charlet]

Originally Posted by medals73

Sure, Denmark has been and is sooooo influential.

Ed, maybe I'm wrong, but Denmark have been a major power in the Baltics region during the modern era, before the swedish then russian rising

[CtahhR]

Dagmar? Or in other words Мария Фёдоровна?

[charlet]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

This is the traditional Danish style of suspension as seen by this 1844 designed award.

If a more historically and culturally appropriately accurate award is suspended around the neck on a fine piece of string so be it. We must remember that Viet Nam has been heavily corrupted by the French Empire as well as the Soviet Empire which is why for some reason they now use the Latin alphabet rather than a locally devised script such as the Kingdoms of Thailand and Cambodia.

would you be at ease to discuss with me about the "heavy corruption" of the entire world by american culture during the past century?

[medals73]

Well, to start to summarise and suggest:

Tsarist Russia:

-- Didn't always use the pentagonal suspension (loose clustered ribbons, closer to comtemporary German states than anything else until ????).

-- Use of the pentagonal suspension from ???? until the revolution (well, afterwards for the "White" pretenders).

USSR:

-- Rejection of all that Tsarist trash led to no suspensions and even a reluctant use of wearable (as opposed to useful) awards.

-- The re-Tsarification of the Soviet Union in 1943 led to, among other things, the reintroduction of the pentagonal suspension.

Russia:

-- The self-destruction of the USSR in 1991 did not interrupt the use of the pentagonal suspension in Russia and in most of the Soviet successor states (I am sure someone who care more about them than I do will expand upon this).

[charlet]

to add one piece to the debate, I checked my good old Hieronymussen's book, and they're onbly two countries in western europe to bear pentagonal suspensions... Denmark and Iceland (logical about this later).

[medals73]

And for the "Soviet Bloc" (whatever the hell that means):

Used Soviet-style suspensions:

Afghanistan
Bulgaria (PR)
China (very briefly)
Kampuchea
Korea (DPRK)
Romania
Vietnam
Yemen

Used close "Soviet-style" suspensions but with very different geometry:

Albania
Cuba
Germany (Democratic Republic) (for some things only)
Yugoslavia (a very mixed record here)

Never used "Soviet-style" suspensions:

Czechoslovakia
Ethiopia
Hungary
Mongolia
Poland

A quick effort, corrections welcomed. I'm using the categories we have in the forum and this leaves many places out in the cold (e.g., Angola, Laos, etc.).