Order Of Skënderbeu.

Lapa · 04-23-2005, 07:30 AM

It looks like a cheap badge! Quite a difference from Soviet manufactured orders.

Marc

Gerd · 04-23-2005, 07:48 AM

Absolutely, its not very well made. Like with every other communist award the soviet made Skanderbergs are much nicer than this local procuction.

Gerd

DutchBoy · 07-10-2005, 11:04 AM

Some more details on this order I just found:

"Urdhëri i Skënderbeut"

Instituted 1945-1956.

Named after the Albanian prince Georg Kastriota Skanderbeg, who in the mid 1400s led an uprising against the Turks and drove them out of Albania.

The order can be awarded to higher officers for remarkable contributions to the struggle for liberation against the invading Italians and Germans during World War 2.

The order has 3 classes, with the star for each class worn on the right side of the breast.

1st class: 5 pointed red-enameled star, in gold, with a silver central medallion showing Skanderbeg in profile. The laurel wreath around the central medallion is in gold.

2nd class: same as above, but is of silver with gold wreath.

3rd class: 5 pointed star without enamel, wreath of silver, and the outer part of the order between the star points is smooth (no rays) as in the other two classes.

The ribbon is red, with 1, 2, or 3 blue vertical stripes depending on the class of the order.

source: "Europaeiske Ordner i Farver" 1966.

Bob · 09-10-2014, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtahhR

Awarded to Hamit Tahir Bilali on 18th July 1960 "For conscientious and tireless labour during 15 years service to the armed forces of the People's Republic Of Albania"

Further research shows Hamit Bilali as #180 in the list of partisans in the Battalion "Çamëria". The unit liberated the town of Libohovë.

Many Albanian awards are now completely researchable too.

Please expand on that last comment.

Research as in google a name if you have somebody's document... or research as in:
- access to archives
- link numbered 3rd class skanderbegs to individuals
- etc

***CtahhR*** · 09-10-2014, 03:34 PM

Decrees by number and recipient's name. The vast majority of Albanian awards are unnumbered.

After finding the decree of the example I presented, an additional google hit that he was a partisan and everything tied up rather nicely. A wide range of techniques can expose a wide range of results in this modern age of communication.

Many governments are digitalising their official documents which isn't always obvious or even possible to access through simple google searches, but it has been known to happen.

charlet · 09-10-2014, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtahhR

Decrees by number and recipient's name. The vast majority of Albanian awards are unnumbered.

You don't answer to the question about the means...

***CtahhR*** · 09-10-2014, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtahhR

Decrees by number and recipient's name.

Many governments are digitalising their official documents which isn't always obvious or even possible to access through simple google searches, but it has been known to happen.

I.E. Start looking through the official Albanian government websites (in Albanian).

Bob · 09-13-2014, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtahhR

I.E. Start looking through the official Albanian government websites (in Albanian).

Why the deliberate vagueness?

04-23-2005, 07:48 AM	#2
Gerd Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Germany Age: 56 Posts: 30	Absolutely, its not very well made. Like with every other communist award the soviet made Skanderbergs are much nicer than this local procuction. Gerd __________________ ВЕК ЖИВИ - ВЕК УЧИСЬ

07-10-2005, 11:04 AM	#3
DutchBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 51 Posts: 153	Some more details on this order I just found: "Urdhëri i Skënderbeut" Instituted 1945-1956. Named after the Albanian prince Georg Kastriota Skanderbeg, who in the mid 1400s led an uprising against the Turks and drove them out of Albania. The order can be awarded to higher officers for remarkable contributions to the struggle for liberation against the invading Italians and Germans during World War 2. The order has 3 classes, with the star for each class worn on the right side of the breast. 1st class: 5 pointed red-enameled star, in gold, with a silver central medallion showing Skanderbeg in profile. The laurel wreath around the central medallion is in gold. 2nd class: same as above, but is of silver with gold wreath. 3rd class: 5 pointed star without enamel, wreath of silver, and the outer part of the order between the star points is smooth (no rays) as in the other two classes. The ribbon is red, with 1, 2, or 3 blue vertical stripes depending on the class of the order. source: "Europaeiske Ordner i Farver" 1966. __________________ Matthijs P. Last edited by DutchBoy; 07-11-2005 at 08:21 AM.

09-10-2014, 03:34 PM	#5
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Order "Skënderbeu". Decrees by number and recipient's name. The vast majority of Albanian awards are unnumbered. After finding the decree of the example I presented, an additional google hit that he was a partisan and everything tied up rather nicely. A wide range of techniques can expose a wide range of results in this modern age of communication. Many governments are digitalising their official documents which isn't always obvious or even possible to access through simple google searches, but it has been known to happen. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

04-23-2005, 07:30 AM	#1
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	It looks like a cheap badge! Quite a difference from Soviet manufactured orders. Marc

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