Valor Group with Two Suspensions

Chuck In Oregon · 06-01-2005, 11:34 AM

Unfortunately, the group isn't all here, but what remains is still interesting.

Medal for Bravery T1-V3

Medal for Combat Service T1-V3

Red Star

I have a couple of other suspensions, but these are the only ones with a document.

Chuck

Eugene · 06-01-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck In Oregon

Unfortunately, the group isn't all here
Chuck

Chuck,
It's OK.
These two suspension medals don't belong to the group either :)

Chuck In Oregon · 06-01-2005, 01:49 PM

OK, maybe we can learn something from this. Please share your thoughts. Maybe an inked-in book?

Chuck

Nack · 06-01-2005, 02:38 PM

Maybe Eugene thinks the high-number Red Star leading the entries is wierd, and then the washed-out folowing entries is further evidence of fishiness.

But, the book is dated 1953, and the photo shows the guy in civillian clothes--couldn't the high-number ORS be a post-war "catch-up" and then the rest of the awards have been transferred in afterwards? Or is that too far-fetched to be plausable?

Chuck In Oregon · 06-01-2005, 02:46 PM

Tim, that's kind of what I thought, but I'm no expert. If this isn't a good group, then I hope to learn what to look for next time. Cruddy-looking books are pretty common.

Chuck

***desantnik*** · 06-02-2005, 08:49 AM

The order book belongs only to the originally listed '53 RS. Everything else was added by a forger - different handwriting, ink, etc. Original groups can have additions, but they chronilogically make sense, i.e. the book was filled out in '46 and the recipient later received long service awards or unnumbered postwar medals, etc. On this set, there is no way that all those other awards would have been added after '53, especially on the older suspensions. There is no question this is an assembled set.

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06-01-2005, 01:49 PM	#3
Chuck In Oregon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 209	OK, maybe we can learn something from this. Please share your thoughts. Maybe an inked-in book? Chuck

06-01-2005, 02:38 PM	#4
Nack Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Buckeye State Age: 46 Posts: 513	Maybe Eugene thinks the high-number Red Star leading the entries is wierd, and then the washed-out folowing entries is further evidence of fishiness. But, the book is dated 1953, and the photo shows the guy in civillian clothes--couldn't the high-number ORS be a post-war "catch-up" and then the rest of the awards have been transferred in afterwards? Or is that too far-fetched to be plausable?

06-01-2005, 02:46 PM	#5
Chuck In Oregon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 209	Tim, that's kind of what I thought, but I'm no expert. If this isn't a good group, then I hope to learn what to look for next time. Cruddy-looking books are pretty common. Chuck

06-02-2005, 08:49 AM	#6
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,341	The order book belongs only to the originally listed '53 RS. Everything else was added by a forger - different handwriting, ink, etc. Original groups can have additions, but they chronilogically make sense, i.e. the book was filled out in '46 and the recipient later received long service awards or unnumbered postwar medals, etc. On this set, there is no way that all those other awards would have been added after '53, especially on the older suspensions. There is no question this is an assembled set.

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