Fake "Excellent" Badges.

[Erik B]

Hi!
I got this in the mail today along with some other badges.
What do you say, fake or real?

[marsino]

Originally Posted by Erik B

Hi!
I got this in the mail today along with some other badges.
What do you say, fake or real?

For me real, post WW2, If you write its measurements, we can also discover the manufacturer.
But I am sure it is this:

[desantnik]

Can we see the back. I agree it is post-war, but I would say post-Soviet too.

[marsino]

Originally Posted by desantnik

Can we see the back. I agree it is post-war, but I would say post-Soviet too.

In the book: (Breast Badges of the Red Army 1941-1945) does not see the back, but I am sure that it is 1950s.

Es. Excellence in Antiaircraft Gunnery, circa mid to late 1950s. But always Soviet era. IMHO :thumbsup

[desantnik]

I respectfully disagree. There is absolutely no wear while the badge, screw, and nut look like they were made yesterday. The obverse letters are not standard and irregular - some thick and others thin. Compare the "O" and "Й." The screwpost, its base, and solder do not look standard for older badges.

[desantnik]

For example, compare the lettering to here:

FS-Best $: Excellent Machine-Gunner's Badge, #1 - The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum

[marsino]

Originally Posted by desantnik

I respectfully disagree. There is absolutely no wear while the badge, screw, and nut look like they were made yesterday. The obverse letters are not standard and irregular - some thick and others thin. Compare the "O" and "Й." The screwpost, its base, and solder do not look standard for older badges.

You're wrong this time, it is as it should be, trust me. ;)

[marsino]

Originally Posted by desantnik

For example, compare the lettering to here:

FS-Best $: Excellent Machine-Gunner's Badge, #1 - The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum

It has nothing to do, it is a variation ШМЗ / НКПС, WW2, the other is Pobeda factory (Победа).

[marsino]

Originally Posted by marsino

You're wrong this time, it is as it should be, trust me. ;)

The many variations, and in a new book, there are even more.

[desantnik]

I still disagree. I have seen entire sets and multiples of singles that were made very recently. The screwback plates are also crudely done with plenty of molding flash and poor finishing. Is there wear on the screwpost and can you show the reverse side of the screwback plate?