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[Lapa]

LatinMajorAC,

1992 makes it a Russian, not a Soviet dagger.
Is the other side of the blade also engraved in the same way. I have never seen a Soviet dagger with a blade so engraved :confused:

Marc

[latinmajorac]

Originally Posted by Lapa

LatinMajorAC,

1992 makes it a Russian, not a Soviet dagger.
Is the other side of the blade also engraved in the same way. I have never seen a Soviet dagger with a blade so engraved :confused:

Marc

i would agree with you that it would make it a russian dagger, HOWEVER, 2 things set it apart for me, 1. it has the state seal of the USSR on it. 2. there is another thread in this section about a dagger very similar to mine, now whether or not it is russian or Soviet, i don't know how you would decide since it has the state seal of the USSR. maybe it is russian, either way, i am pleased with it. :thumbsup

but yes, the other side of the blade is engraved the same way

[latinmajorac]

hm so re-reading the other thread, apparently the conclusion was that it was a russian rederation issued dagger but they still used the seal of the soviet union. so i suppose the dagger is not soviet at all... hm. well then...

still, does that fact make the engravings on the blade any more explainable?

[willie777]

Wow, this is a transitional dagger then.

[Tretov]

The borderguard medal from 1992-1994(?) also has the Soviet seal although the USSR was no more. Transitional.

[willie777]

Speaking of transitional, this is a transitional cap (From "Under The Red Star"):

Russian Army
Transitional Officer Service
1992-1994

Finally, I have included this cap as an end-point to my display. Following the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, the Soviet Army began considering uniform changes to reflect the now "Russian" nature of the force. This process has been long and torturous; still not complete over 10 years later (specifically some Naval officers continue to wear Soviet-era cockades on their caps). One of the first elements of the conversion was adoption of a new, more "western" looking uniform that would be used for both service and parade (with minor accessory changes). The uniform chosen was actually one being considered for adoption by the Army prior to the fall of Communism. To a Soviet uniform collector, this was a very sad change of affairs! In my opinion, one of the nicest uniformed militaries in the world lost much of its Russian heritage, even as it tried to celebrate its formation. In any case, this cap represents the first model cap accompanying this uniform. I acquired it in Moscow in June 1992, before its general issue to the Army (it was the first one my Russian escort officer had actually seen as well). The Soviet connection had still not been totally cut at this time, as evidenced by the normal Soviet officer's cockade and gold "Soviet Army" buttons. However, colored bands were eliminated, with both crown and band now a greenish-khaki matching the uniform. The band had a gray-green ribbon cover similar in concept to that found on the naval cap, but with a distinct "checkerboard" pattern (this ribbon band was dropped on later Russian caps). Red piping was standardized for all Army officers regardless of branch. Similar caps remain in Russian Army service today but these typically have an even larger crown, no band ribbon and are adorned with new Russian cockades, eagles and buttons. Available