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HuliganRS · 01-26-2004, 05:31 PM

So T1V1 & T1V2 were never gilted, correct?

Rusty.

new world · 01-26-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuliganRS

So T1V1 & T1V2 were never gilted, correct?

Rusty.

I've never seen one - and all collectors I've discussed this topic with - they never observed gold-plated mirror reverse RB.

William

HuliganRS · 01-27-2004, 11:34 AM

I actually spoke with this dealer, which in my eyes is an easy to deal with and generally nice guy and this is what he said:

"As to McDaniel certificate, it's uneconomical for us to authenticate less expensive items such as this, so we leave it up to the customer. Needless to say, we guarantee all items we sell, so if Paul's authentication ever comes negative, we will take the item back and refund the purchase price in full."

Taz · 01-27-2004, 11:41 AM

Rusty,
That,s fair enough as far as the Refund for the Order/Medal goes but does he refund the Authentication Fee?
Eddie

HuliganRS · 01-27-2004, 12:16 PM

Honestly, I don't know.

I'm sure he would.

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 01-28-2004, 08:35 PM

Rusty,

I've never seen one either, but I remember talking to an engineer, and he had a theory that some types of gold-plating may actually "sink" into the silver. I don't know if that's true or not.

Alexei

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuliganRS

So T1V1 & T1V2 were never gilted, correct?

Rusty.

HuliganRS · 01-28-2004, 08:37 PM

Alexei,

Can you elaborate on this?

Thanks,

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 01-28-2004, 08:49 PM

Rusty,

It's not really my area of expertese, but I think he theorised that some additions to the gold (or steps of the process) will make the gold dissolve into the silver after certain time.

Alexei

medaldude · 01-31-2004, 11:01 PM

Hello All,

I have an Order of the Red Banner Third Award, type 3 variation 4, that has a slightly higher number then what McDaniel's book shows as highest observed serial number. Book say highest observed is 5,921, mine is 5925. I know most likely that more have been observed higher since the book came out but I thought I'd pass the information on. Could someone give me McDaniels website url or email address please?

Thanks,

Tom

HuliganRS · 01-31-2004, 11:51 PM

Tom,

The McDaniel book is a great starter reference but for advanced collectors the MonDvor site is up to date...

According to MonDvor site:

T2V1S1 S/N range: 774 - 5698
T2V1S2 S/N range: 5926 - 7170

There's no need to contact Paul McDaniel since he claims he doesn't want to write another book.

Congrats, you have the new lowest observed S/N for T2V1S2.

You can send it to MonDvor sites owners...

Rusty.

01-26-2004, 05:31 PM	#91
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	So T1V1 & T1V2 were never gilted, correct? Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

01-27-2004, 11:34 AM	#93
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	I actually spoke with this dealer, which in my eyes is an easy to deal with and generally nice guy and this is what he said: "As to McDaniel certificate, it's uneconomical for us to authenticate less expensive items such as this, so we leave it up to the customer. Needless to say, we guarantee all items we sell, so if Paul's authentication ever comes negative, we will take the item back and refund the purchase price in full." __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

01-27-2004, 11:41 AM	#94
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	Fair Enough! Rusty, That,s fair enough as far as the Refund for the Order/Medal goes but does he refund the Authentication Fee? Eddie __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski

01-27-2004, 12:16 PM	#95
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Honestly, I don't know. I'm sure he would. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

01-28-2004, 08:37 PM	#97
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Alexei, Can you elaborate on this? Thanks, Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

01-28-2004, 08:49 PM	#98
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Rusty, It's not really my area of expertese, but I think he theorised that some additions to the gold (or steps of the process) will make the gold dissolve into the silver after certain time. Alexei

01-31-2004, 11:51 PM	#100
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Tom, The McDaniel book is a great starter reference but for advanced collectors the MonDvor site is up to date... According to MonDvor site: T2V1S1 S/N range: 774 - 5698 T2V1S2 S/N range: 5926 - 7170 There's no need to contact Paul McDaniel since he claims he doesn't want to write another book. Congrats, you have the new lowest observed S/N for T2V1S2. You can send it to MonDvor sites owners... Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193 Last edited by CtahhR; 04-12-2012 at 06:55 AM.

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