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Old 03-12-2004, 05:41 PM   #111
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Actually, it's not exactly correct statement. About a dozen of 7th Red Banners were awarded.
Eugene,

Really ? I thought, as Jussi-Pekka, that only one Red Banner #7 had been awarded, to Air General-Major Michael Ivanovich Burtsev.
Isn't it correct ?
Who are the others ?

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Old 03-12-2004, 07:07 PM   #112
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Where does it end? maybe......
Must be an image altered by computer. I have done this several times, mixing and altering awards when making my manga/anime characters(do you remember them?)and the ones who see them think are true! I always frame them! :D Hehehehehehh..... :p

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Old 03-13-2004, 10:27 AM   #113
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Actually, it's not exactly correct statement. About a dozen of 7th Red Banners were awarded.

Eugene,

Could you please tell more?

Burtsev's 7th Red Banner (which is in Moscow) is also mentioned in Mondvor sites as only one 7th award.


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Old 03-15-2004, 02:01 PM   #114
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Eugene,

Could you please tell more?

Burtsev's 7th Red Banner (which is in Moscow) is also mentioned in Mondvor sites as only one 7th award.


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Guys, you confused the only observed s/n with number of awardees.
It's known that Burtsev has received Red Banner N7 with s/n 1. I saw the image of his group with order book. If Mondvor site doesn't who received Red Banner N7 s/n 2, it doesn't mean it wasn't awarded.
Among people who received seven Red Banners Kogedub I. N. and Pstigo I. I.
As a matter of fact, Pstigo I. I. had eight Red Banners, but his eihgt Red Banner was a regular one and didn't have N8.
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Old 03-15-2004, 02:27 PM   #115
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Eugene,
that is interesting information.

BTW: The auction house took away the 8th award from the selling list just before the auction because it was a fake. They didn't noticed that
themselves(!) but so many collctors had told about that to them!

I don't know yet what happened to the 7th award.


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Old 03-16-2004, 05:22 PM   #116
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Jussi-Pekka,

Here's an incomplete list of those, who had received seven Orders of the Red Banner:

M-G M. Burtsev;
L-G V. Golubev;
C-G S. Gorelov;
L-G M. Enshin;
C-G K. Kozhanov;
M I. Kozhedub;
M-G N. Petrov;
M I. Pstygo.

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Old 03-16-2004, 11:18 PM   #117
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Order of Red Banner "5" - S/N 63

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Order of Red Banner "5" - S/N 63

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Old 03-17-2004, 01:00 PM   #118
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Jussi-Pekka,

Here's an incomplete list of those, who had received seven Orders of the Red Banner:

M-G M. Burtsev;
L-G V. Golubev;
C-G S. Gorelov;
L-G M. Enshin;
C-G K. Kozhanov;
M I. Kozhedub;
M-G N. Petrov;
M I. Pstygo.

Alexei
Alexei,

Thank you for sharing this information.


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Old 04-17-2004, 10:18 AM   #119
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Unusual Red Banner - Mirror Reverse type with mint mark

Gentlemen,

Here's quite unusual Red Banner - Mirror Reverse type.

Couple odd things about this one:
1) has mint mark - there not supposed to be one.
2) serial number is too high for this variation

Any thoughts?

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Old 04-17-2004, 06:20 PM   #120
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Vlad,

Is there a pic of the obverse?

I don't think it's genuine...

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