Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents - Page 13

Keith · 03-16-2006, 01:21 PM

Lauri,

What do you think happened with the picture? It looks like it has been torn out and glued back on. I agree its the same stamp on both the picture and the document, but it does not line up.

Keith

Lauri · 03-16-2006, 02:36 PM

Keith,

to be honest, i really dont know. I believe that photo came off and He glued it back by himself.

Lauri

Nota Bene · 03-16-2006, 05:47 PM

Keith,

I am not going to comment on the document, since Lauri is in a better position to do so.

I just wanted to mention that this document depsite the KGB stamps is for a WWII veteran.

Alexei

jefflgarrison · 04-20-2007, 05:07 AM

Can someone tell me if any of these are real? If not, what should I be looking for?

Also, what is the going rate currently for such ID's?

Lapa · 04-21-2007, 01:44 PM

Jeff,

I don't like any of them at all, mostly because they are brand new. In the USSR, IDs were heavily used, especially in branches like the NKVD. In addition, the photos do not have that "official" look, but feel more like personal pictures that were used to make believe.

All in all, I'd stay as far away from them as I can :thumbsdown

Marc

deValcourt · 08-08-2008, 12:28 PM

Keep an eye out for the photos. I've seen them appear on different documents with different organizations (NKVD/SMERSH and MVD/NKGB). Some are the exact same photo used for different years and no uniform change with the different ministry or people's commisariat they are supposed to be a part of.

deValcourt · 08-08-2008, 12:50 PM

Nota Bene,

On the KGB ID "for good service" No.355, I've seen the saem photo on an MVD ID from 1964. AND, I believe I saw him on an eBay "NKVD Gramota" ID by a less than reputable sourc who insists that the ones he keep turning out are all signed by Beria.

Nota Bene · 08-11-2008, 07:49 PM

Devalcourt,

Welcome to the forum!

Thanks for the info, it's good to know. Do you by any chance have any scans to post?

Alexei

10-29-2008, 04:48 AM

Are the ebay fakes from the Ukraine coming from Geramoyslava and Partizzan ?

Lapa · 10-29-2008, 08:33 AM

Not only, NKVD, not only...

03-16-2006, 01:21 PM	#121
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 202	Document Lauri, What do you think happened with the picture? It looks like it has been torn out and glued back on. I agree its the same stamp on both the picture and the document, but it does not line up. Keith

08-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#126
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents Keep an eye out for the photos. I've seen them appear on different documents with different organizations (NKVD/SMERSH and MVD/NKGB). Some are the exact same photo used for different years and no uniform change with the different ministry or people's commisariat they are supposed to be a part of. Last edited by deValcourt; 08-08-2008 at 12:46 PM. Reason: posted after wrong posting - one I was not talking about

08-08-2008, 12:50 PM	#127
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents Nota Bene, On the KGB ID "for good service" No.355, I've seen the saem photo on an MVD ID from 1964. AND, I believe I saw him on an eBay "NKVD Gramota" ID by a less than reputable sourc who insists that the ones he keep turning out are all signed by Beria.

08-11-2008, 07:49 PM	#128
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents Devalcourt, Welcome to the forum! Thanks for the info, it's good to know. Do you by any chance have any scans to post? Alexei

10-29-2008, 04:48 AM	#129
NKVDawards Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents Are the ebay fakes from the Ukraine coming from Geramoyslava and Partizzan ?

03-16-2006, 02:36 PM	#122
Lauri Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tallinn- Estonia Age: 49 Posts: 99	Keith, to be honest, i really dont know. I believe that photo came off and He glued it back by himself. Lauri

03-16-2006, 05:47 PM	#123
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Keith, I am not going to comment on the document, since Lauri is in a better position to do so. I just wanted to mention that this document depsite the KGB stamps is for a WWII veteran. Alexei

04-21-2007, 01:44 PM	#125
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Jeff, I don't like any of them at all, mostly because they are brand new. In the USSR, IDs were heavily used, especially in branches like the NKVD. In addition, the photos do not have that "official" look, but feel more like personal pictures that were used to make believe. All in all, I'd stay as far away from them as I can :thumbsdown Marc

10-29-2008, 08:33 AM	#130
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake CheKa/NKVD/KGB Documents Not only, NKVD, not only...

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