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View Poll Results: Repair or not | |||
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair |
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12 | 54.55% |
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable |
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9 | 40.91% |
Repair the enamel only |
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0 | 0% |
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel |
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1 | 4.55% |
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll |
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That's exactly what I'd like to know: how to remove that "green stuff" and that kind of "red rust" from bronze Medals? With some professional cleaning products for coins? Which ones would you advise? Thanks a lot, Dolf |
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#122 |
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Fast reply!
Alexei,
Thanks a lot for the super fast reply! In the meantime I was reading again this entire thread and found that reply to Monroe, but you were faster ![]() That's not my Medal, just a pic from a seller that made me wonder what to do if I get one like this some day. Any suggestions? Anyway this thanks a lot too for letting me know this one is a fake ![]() I didn't like the look anyway ![]() Thanks a lot, Dolf |
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Here's a pic after a few minutes of break dust application...
Should I do more? Do I just let it sit for a few years? Thanks, Rusty.
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#124 |
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a little help
I have been collecting coins for a whilw and I can give you one good advice. Put the order near unpainted oakwood for half a year and you will get very nice black patina on your silver. It gets nice and even and are not artificially applied.
Best
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I can go out and collect some of the dirt from my BMW for you on a piece of tissue... Postal and handling applies as well as insurance (optional) ![]() /Patrik |
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#126 |
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For less than $10, you can get a bottle of what they call Silver/Black, made by Griffith. It's a sulfur-based liquid, and, after several coatings, will give a nice chemical patina. (This is the same stuff as used by most of the fakers)
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Dave,
Can you post a pic of your results? Patrik: MY cousins BMW is only 5min away... Thanks, Rusty.
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--Dave Okay, here's my pet project for the evening. I HATED to do this to a nice award, but I had to remind myself... This is for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES! ![]() So, I started out with this nice 3rd class Glory, with original patina... Step one was to remove the old patina. I did this using MAAS silver polish. The medal DID shine up quite nicely! ![]() Once the award was washed with soap and water, now it was time to apply the chemical patina. I used a q-tip to administer the Silver/Black liquid onto the order. I snapped this photo during the process as it darkened within seconds! Last edited by CtahhR; 04-01-2013 at 11:10 AM. |
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Here's a pic of the order with the single coat of chemical patina, once it had dried. It was dark and rather "chalky" looking.
Finally, I took a silver polishing cloth to the Glory. It took away the chalky look, and replaced it with a shine. Unfortunately, even though I tried to bring out some silver highlights, they wouldn't appear! I rubbed as hard as I could, and the color was still even. So, what did I learn? It's pretty easy to put on a chemical patina, but it comes out very grey, and very even. If I didn't have the benefit of experience, I'd say that the even, dark-grey color would be a dead giveaway of a fake patina. However, since I've owned groups with the same even colored patina (and they were 100% original) I'm not too sure what conclusions to draw. I DID NOT notice the "rainbow" of the chemical patina, as is so often cited as a "dead giveaway" of being faked. Strange. I'll keep fooling with this order (since I've already taken the patina off once!) and see what else I can do with it. I'll keep you posted! --Dave Last edited by CtahhR; 04-01-2013 at 11:12 AM. |
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#130 |
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Great Interest!
Dave keep us posted!
I,ve been reading this Thread with great interest because unfortunatly a lot of the Orders and Medals in my Collection seem to have been cleaned or polished at some time in there history. Some I must admit unknowingly my me to give the display a Uniform appearance but most before I purchased them. So keep up with the Experimenting and let us know how it goes! Eddie.
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