The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Echoes of War
Seeking following Soviet campaign medals for ..,
Echoes of War

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Soviet Sphere > German Democratic Republic > DDR Award Groups

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-06-2004, 03:38 PM   #11
Christophe
Senior Member
 
Christophe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Paris - Berlin
Age: 61
Posts: 1,208
And today I don't think you will find in Germany any Museum seeking to buy them...

Ch.
Christophe is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 11-06-2004, 03:42 PM   #12
Nota Bene
Senior Member
 
Nota Bene's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York USA
Posts: 2,296
That's a shame. It's an important part of Germany's history.

Alexei
Nota Bene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 03:48 PM   #13
Christophe
Senior Member
 
Christophe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Paris - Berlin
Age: 61
Posts: 1,208
I agree... and you don't need to exhibit them immediately. Time will make things go better, but with time passing, these pieces risk to be no more available.

Ch.
Christophe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 05:19 PM   #14
charlet
Senior Member
 
charlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Germany
Age: 49
Posts: 791
You're right Alexei and Christophe. This auction house split 2 huge collections, Wili Stoph first, then Erich Mielke. And those 2 guys were 2 enormous "stars" in former DDR...just behind Erich Honnecker. They 3 personnalized the old DDR.

We can see few problems: those collection were HUGE! Who would be able to pay such a amount at its real value?
Only the State could pay such a sum. And state prevalence on historical goods is not always well seen (but I think in countries were strong state is a custom wouldn't be upset, like France or Germany). Remember when I spoke about Souvorov 1st class belonging to a french marschal...some collectors here were upset such an award was taken at low price by government..

The preemption problem leads us towards another big problem: what would the german people, so its governement, do with the stuff belonging to a ashamed (?) hated character? Are all east germans ready to conserve precautionausly all the stuf of a kind of cold monster like Mielke?
(but I clearly admit the necessity of historical proofs for future generations!).

And finaly, 2 unpolitically correct points:
-the Mielke's familly greed...or they're disturbed with such an heritage??
-and we know that honest and perfectionnist enough collectors willing to protect all complete groups and history are not so numerous...(not here happily!). Collector greed to have one piece and neglecting the less prestigious part of a group...sad.
__________________
Sebastien
"a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism"
(a well-known german bearbed)
charlet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:33 PM   #15
Nota Bene
Senior Member
 
Nota Bene's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York USA
Posts: 2,296
Charlet,

I agree with you, sadly there are many collectors out there, who are only interested in separate pieces and don't care about the history behind those awards. You wouldn't believe how often I am asked to split certain groups and sell more expensive items separately. Honestly, I never could understand this.

Alexei
Nota Bene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:40 PM   #16
charlet
Senior Member
 
charlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Germany
Age: 49
Posts: 791
well we meet all kinds of philosophy in collecting...Collecting is a kind of greedy activity, isn't it? For me, I collect pieces of History, and as it, I howe some respect to the previous owners of the stuf I find. I really loved this formula from Dave: we're only new keepers (a museum conservator) of the award...
__________________
Sebastien
"a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism"
(a well-known german bearbed)
charlet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2005, 10:53 PM   #17
Art
Forum Founder
 
Art's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Buffalo NY
Age: 58
Posts: 1,646
I know this reply is somewhat late and off-topic, but I was looking around on the net this evening and found this great story of an East German defector. Mielke is also mentioned a few times. Many great photos..

http://www.myspystory.com/intro.html
__________________
Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page
Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ
Important Links: Forum announcements and rules | Image posting FAQ
Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



North American Rescue New LARGE GEAR BAG (Black) Item 80-0547 Sturdy Nylon picture

North American Rescue New LARGE GEAR BAG (Black) Item 80-0547 Sturdy Nylon

$38.98



Vintage  Czech Military OM-90 Gas Mask Kit Filter Poncho Bag Size 2 Adult Medium picture

Vintage Czech Military OM-90 Gas Mask Kit Filter Poncho Bag Size 2 Adult Medium

$85.00



Claymore Mine Bag Used Button Missing picture

Claymore Mine Bag Used Button Missing

$40.00



Genuine Military Improved Duffle Bag - Previously Issued picture

Genuine Military Improved Duffle Bag - Previously Issued

$27.25



MOJO Medical CLS Combat Lifesaver First Responder Aid Bag MOLLE Coyote Brown NWT picture

MOJO Medical CLS Combat Lifesaver First Responder Aid Bag MOLLE Coyote Brown NWT

$60.00



USGI Duffle Bag OD Green Nylon Sea Bag Carry Straps Army Duffel Bags w/ Paint picture

USGI Duffle Bag OD Green Nylon Sea Bag Carry Straps Army Duffel Bags w/ Paint

$20.99



Vintage Military Duffle Bag US Canvas - Army Green - 1944 - Named picture

Vintage Military Duffle Bag US Canvas - Army Green - 1944 - Named

$23.00



Vintage Military Canvas Top Load Duffel Bag 20

Vintage Military Canvas Top Load Duffel Bag 20" x 36"

$15.61



US Military Improved Duffel Travel Flight Sea Bag Green 8465-01-604-6541 picture

US Military Improved Duffel Travel Flight Sea Bag Green 8465-01-604-6541

$34.49



Military Duffel Bag Rucksack Olive Green Nylon Heavy Duty Army Duffel USGI picture

Military Duffel Bag Rucksack Olive Green Nylon Heavy Duty Army Duffel USGI

$20.50




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III