Fake Medals "For Bravery" - Page 27

Shocktrooper · 12-29-2014, 02:30 AM

Hello guys,

a few weeks ago I bought a heavily worn, custom made order-/ medal bar containing two bravery medals (see images). I now researched the order of glory 3rd class and received the award card. I was very surprised: even, if all parts of the suspension have the same traces of wear and the fixing of the two bravery medals was made by using the same (now heavily rusted) steel wire, without any "fresh" scratches, etc. one of the bravery medals does not belong to the recipient!? Is it possible that there was a false entry made in the awards card in the archive???

Thank you very much!

***CtahhR*** · 12-29-2014, 04:06 AM

I think a "quick fix" here would be to research one of the Medals - paperwork isn't always perfect though as there are administrative errors.

Also posting the research for the OG3 in full (in the correct section) would certainly let others here assist you in researching the set "as is".

Tommy · 12-29-2014, 04:14 AM

I doubt its any kind of administration error but to make sure, you could order the Record Card for the Bravery Medal that doesnt appear on the other record card you already obtained..

This will probably come back as being awarded to someone else but thats the only way you'll ever 100% know.

Shocktrooper · 12-30-2014, 02:28 AM

Hello guys,

thank you so far. I will research the bravery medal on the suspension, which does not appear on the award card as soon as possible...

btw.: the suspension was made from tin of an old vegetable can sent by the US government to assist the USSR during the war against the Germans - you still can see the official stamps :D

With kind regards!!!

e.g.: a friend of mine once bought a group, for which two different award cards existed in the archive... they fit together to all pieces the group came with - also strange...

Tommy · 12-30-2014, 06:57 AM

My fingers are crossed for you!

Collecting is full of lucky breaks and i hope this is one for you!

***CtahhR*** · 12-30-2014, 06:59 AM

Using the name/unit on the record cards/citations it should be possible to research this wartime award for free.

Shocktrooper · 12-31-2014, 11:09 AM

@CtahhR: I will try this - thank you very much for the hint !!! :thumbsup

vpah51 · 03-21-2016, 09:20 AM

hello,
what do you think about this Bravery Medal? Fake or not?
Thank you
Richard

USSR · 03-21-2016, 10:14 AM

Do you have the measurements? The diameter of both the medal and its little ring on top? Also its thickness please

vpah51 · 03-21-2016, 10:53 AM

the diameter is 37mm and the thickness is 3mm for the medal and the little ring 5mm diameter.

12-29-2014, 04:06 AM	#262
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	I think a "quick fix" here would be to research one of the Medals - paperwork isn't always perfect though as there are administrative errors. Also posting the research for the OG3 in full (in the correct section) would certainly let others here assist you in researching the set "as is". __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

12-29-2014, 04:14 AM	#263
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" I doubt its any kind of administration error but to make sure, you could order the Record Card for the Bravery Medal that doesnt appear on the other record card you already obtained.. This will probably come back as being awarded to someone else but thats the only way you'll ever 100% know.

12-30-2014, 02:28 AM	#264
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" Hello guys, thank you so far. I will research the bravery medal on the suspension, which does not appear on the award card as soon as possible... btw.: the suspension was made from tin of an old vegetable can sent by the US government to assist the USSR during the war against the Germans - you still can see the official stamps :D With kind regards!!! e.g.: a friend of mine once bought a group, for which two different award cards existed in the archive... they fit together to all pieces the group came with - also strange... Last edited by Shocktrooper; 12-30-2014 at 02:32 AM.

12-30-2014, 06:57 AM	#265
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" My fingers are crossed for you! Collecting is full of lucky breaks and i hope this is one for you!

12-30-2014, 06:59 AM	#266
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" Using the name/unit on the record cards/citations it should be possible to research this wartime award for free. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

12-31-2014, 11:09 AM	#267
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" @CtahhR: I will try this - thank you very much for the hint !!! :thumbsup

03-21-2016, 10:14 AM	#269
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" Do you have the measurements? The diameter of both the medal and its little ring on top? Also its thickness please __________________ Up to 3 pictures may be added to a post.

03-21-2016, 10:53 AM	#270
vpah51 New Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: France Age: 51 Posts: 1	Re: Fake Medals "For Bravery" the diameter is 37mm and the thickness is 3mm for the medal and the little ring 5mm diameter.

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