Cap Badges - Page 4

EricFG · 12-22-2007, 10:20 AM

Thanks Gents. It looked too nice and shiney. But is this what an original should (roughly) look like? And is the huge size about right? Just curious.

DougD · 12-22-2007, 04:34 PM

eric,

this seller has gone by many names, but they all lead back to Doubledecker Auctions....this is just a new branch name for them, but you can tell by the write ups, photos, etc. They have a very poor reputation and are known to sell huge numbers of fake items (take a look at the fake M1940 white marshal that they have had for a few years for sale).

DougD
Moderator

EricFG · 12-22-2007, 04:49 PM

I wondered about all the "rare" stuff they have for sale on E. Most of the stuff I've never seen but that fake, chemically applied patina I thought I recognized.
Thanks for confirming that. I don't think I'll get sued for slander if I say "be wary of buying stuff from badge_heritage on eBay"

marcotk · 12-17-2008, 05:20 AM

I would like to resume this topic to speak about the adrian's star. We have shown a fake but no originals, so if anyone has one reference photo, please share!. Also I would like to discuss some I have found online.

#1 This was bought from DoubleDec. and I am not not miss something is equal to the one posted by Eric one year ago. :thumbsdown ??
helmet0009_1.jpg

#2 Another one I have found, a little bit more lived and beated up but that reminds the one above. What do you think?
Immagine 007.jpg

#3 Now.. Found this on a russian forum.. is this a good one?
bbbbbbb.jpg

marcotk · 12-17-2008, 05:23 AM

Finally,

#4 1 more speciment, back and front found in a russian forum. I note that the H&S is clearly different and more detailed. Is this a good one?
scan0007.jpg desydgj.jpg

Thanks to all that will partecipate in this discussion! Let us shed some light on this dark topic :D :thumbsup

Cheers,
Marco

DougD · 12-17-2008, 09:58 AM

Marco,

Great photos, thanks for posting. I agree, your photo #1 is idenitcal to the DDA one posted last year and I for one would not be comfortable dealing with it. The others I'd like to see in person, but as of now I would not have a major problem with #3 and #4 (others may disagree); I'm not a big fan of helmets, but this was a great looking design! Pick up 'Russian Helmets: From Kaska to Stalshlyem 1916-2001' by Robert Clawson (he also has a website where he does updates and corrections). Bender Publishing has it on sale right now for under $20 I think.

DougD

DougD · 06-28-2009, 09:58 AM

This was up for auction recently...offered as 1930's Red Navy cap badge, but I have to say I have never seen anything like it (not that that means much)...real? non-soviet? custom made?

DougD

Ser-g · 06-28-2009, 11:49 AM

i have seen this one too,

i had my doubts about it too, i could find nothing on the pictures that said right away fake.

Commissar · 06-28-2009, 12:04 PM

Perhaps marines?
Come to think of it, did they have marines in the 30s? :o

RichieC · 06-28-2009, 07:44 PM

It is a 1934 34MM pattern star with a mid-late 1930s anchor (less the wire chain) from a Naval officer's visor cap "crab".

Obviously not "regulation", but I would not be surprised if it were actually fashioned during the period by some creative Soviet seaman...

12-22-2007, 10:20 AM	#31
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Thanks Gents. It looked too nice and shiney. But is this what an original should (roughly) look like? And is the huge size about right? Just curious. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-22-2007, 04:34 PM	#32
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	seller eric, this seller has gone by many names, but they all lead back to Doubledecker Auctions....this is just a new branch name for them, but you can tell by the write ups, photos, etc. They have a very poor reputation and are known to sell huge numbers of fake items (take a look at the fake M1940 white marshal that they have had for a few years for sale). DougD Moderator

12-22-2007, 04:49 PM	#33
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	I wondered about all the "rare" stuff they have for sale on E. Most of the stuff I've never seen but that fake, chemically applied patina I thought I recognized. Thanks for confirming that. I don't think I'll get sued for slander if I say "be wary of buying stuff from badge_heritage on eBay" __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-17-2008, 05:20 AM	#34
marcotk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy, US Posts: 130	Re: Cap Badges I would like to resume this topic to speak about the adrian's star. We have shown a fake but no originals, so if anyone has one reference photo, please share!. Also I would like to discuss some I have found online. #1 This was bought from DoubleDec. and I am not not miss something is equal to the one posted by Eric one year ago. :thumbsdown ?? helmet0009_1.jpg #2 Another one I have found, a little bit more lived and beated up but that reminds the one above. What do you think? Immagine 007.jpg #3 Now.. Found this on a russian forum.. is this a good one? bbbbbbb.jpg __________________ Best, Marco

12-17-2008, 05:23 AM	#35
marcotk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy, US Posts: 130	Re: Cap Badges Finally, #4 1 more speciment, back and front found in a russian forum. I note that the H&S is clearly different and more detailed. Is this a good one? scan0007.jpg desydgj.jpg Thanks to all that will partecipate in this discussion! Let us shed some light on this dark topic :D :thumbsup Cheers, Marco __________________ Best, Marco

12-17-2008, 09:58 AM	#36
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	Re: Cap Badges Marco, Great photos, thanks for posting. I agree, your photo #1 is idenitcal to the DDA one posted last year and I for one would not be comfortable dealing with it. The others I'd like to see in person, but as of now I would not have a major problem with #3 and #4 (others may disagree); I'm not a big fan of helmets, but this was a great looking design! Pick up 'Russian Helmets: From Kaska to Stalshlyem 1916-2001' by Robert Clawson (he also has a website where he does updates and corrections). Bender Publishing has it on sale right now for under $20 I think. DougD

06-28-2009, 11:49 AM	#38
Ser-g Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Haarlem The Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 374	Re: Cap Badges i have seen this one too, i had my doubts about it too, i could find nothing on the pictures that said right away fake.

06-28-2009, 12:04 PM	#39
Commissar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 424	Re: Cap Badges Perhaps marines? Come to think of it, did they have marines in the 30s? :o

06-28-2009, 07:44 PM	#40
RichieC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States Of America Age: 58 Posts: 223	Re: Cap Badges It is a 1934 34MM pattern star with a mid-late 1930s anchor (less the wire chain) from a Naval officer's visor cap "crab". Obviously not "regulation", but I would not be surprised if it were actually fashioned during the period by some creative Soviet seaman...

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