Patriotic War. - Page 40

***CtahhR*** · 09-26-2013, 02:30 PM

Personally I really wouldn't like to see items like these selling for $50 even with documents. $35 with document is still a little "rich" for my tastes. The major factor in the market price of the 1985 issues is metal content.

With the complimentary documents the recipients can often be found on "the site" and a little more information presents itself. You won't find stories of heroics but a birth date and home town.

Alfred · 09-29-2013, 08:21 AM

I tend to like the engraving of the serial number. But all is possible.

best regards
Andreas

Tommy · 10-19-2013, 03:29 PM

Strange. It could be the seller shilling up the birs with to try and tempt a real buyer into bidding at a higher price. Or it could also be as you say, non-payers or a dodgy piece thats been returned.

Either way it would make me avoid it!

Tom

marsino · 03-23-2014, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pravda

Has anyone ever seen a Order of the Great Patriotic War II Class with the solid gold hammer and sickle upside down? Is this a mint error, or a bad repair job? If it is the previous, I will probably have her get it. If it is the latter, I will have to let it pass.

Simply, the hammer and sickle has loose rivets, and you can reposition in the right direction.

***CtahhR*** · 06-28-2014, 08:45 AM

According to the Russian State Television Documentary Series "The Liberators" Episode 6 "The Artillery" this Order was the only state award that was allowed to remain with the family (or next of kin) of the recipient after they had died until the reforms of 1977. This may explain why there are so many poor condition ones out there. If someone received one in 1943 and was dead by 1945 there was a lot of time for them to be "played" with.

Pravda · 09-11-2014, 10:53 AM

Gents,

I have acquired some 1985 OPWs...one for free, and I am looking to get some more information on the "dimple." Does the dimple signify a piece manufactured at the LMD?

Thanks!
Will

***CtahhR*** · 11-04-2014, 10:50 AM

The serial number is the most important factor in finding out when and where it was produced. As millions were needed all sorts of "enterprises" were churning them out for the best part of the 1980's.

Here is an example of an unresearchable OPWII'85. Just far too common a name with the information available. 26-1 chance unfortunately.

Today I did find the first example on "the site" where an award citation has been linked to a serial number (It was a Red Star) - hopefully there will be considerably more of this in the future!

marsino · 01-11-2015, 10:05 AM

Kliyevens Peteris Kaupovich

sharp111 · 03-07-2015, 02:45 AM

Any thoughts on this one?

Auke · 03-07-2015, 06:34 AM

Nothing wrong with it.

09-26-2013, 02:30 PM	#1
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class Personally I really wouldn't like to see items like these selling for $50 even with documents. $35 with document is still a little "rich" for my tastes. The major factor in the market price of the 1985 issues is metal content. With the complimentary documents the recipients can often be found on "the site" and a little more information presents itself. You won't find stories of heroics but a birth date and home town. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

10-19-2013, 03:29 PM	#3
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Patriotic War. Strange. It could be the seller shilling up the birs with to try and tempt a real buyer into bidding at a higher price. Or it could also be as you say, non-payers or a dodgy piece thats been returned. Either way it would make me avoid it! Tom

06-28-2014, 08:45 AM	#5
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Patriotic War. According to the Russian State Television Documentary Series "The Liberators" Episode 6 "The Artillery" this Order was the only state award that was allowed to remain with the family (or next of kin) of the recipient after they had died until the reforms of 1977. This may explain why there are so many poor condition ones out there. If someone received one in 1943 and was dead by 1945 there was a lot of time for them to be "played" with. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-11-2014, 10:53 AM	#6
Pravda Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Anywhere and Everywhere Posts: 118	Re: Patriotic War. Gents, I have acquired some 1985 OPWs...one for free, and I am looking to get some more information on the "dimple." Does the dimple signify a piece manufactured at the LMD? Thanks! Will

03-07-2015, 06:34 AM	#10
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class Nothing wrong with it.

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