Red Star.

[jefflgarrison]

Originally Posted by desantnik

I've expanded my original Echoes list by 3 times and still don't have anything in that block except the Marshal mentioned above.

Might I suggest that you maybe make "suppliments" available for a modest fee? You could create a PDF of say, "ORS" and sell them as downloads for $5.00. This way, when you expand as much as you do but are not ready to publish, you can provide to those interested with the written understanding that this information will be available in a future publication.

[Nota Bene]

Originally Posted by desantnik

Alexei, what are the unused serial # spreads for RSs ?

Desantnik,

I have asked somebody else for this information and apparently the highest number observed before the gap was 2290XXX, and the lowest number after - 2500XXX.

I might add that this is not a unique case. There were also gaps in production of other awards, when orders were placed with different mints, like MZPP and KMD. If memory serves, MZPP production of OGPW 2nd stops at about 667XXX, and KMD picks up at about 680XX.

Alexei

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Desantnik,

I have asked somebody else for this information and apparently the highest number observed before the gap was 2290XXX, and the lowest number after - 2500XXX.

I might add that this is not a unique case. There were also gaps in production of other awards, when orders were placed with different mints, like MZPP and KMD. If memory serves, MZPP production of OGPW 2nd stops at about 667XXX, and KMD picks up at about 680XX.

Alexei

Thanks. I too mentioned the two RB gaps.

[jefflgarrison]

ok, so I got my "2.4 million" star today. I can tell you that it is a new variation in my mind, since it has curved in edges on the back and a slight concaveness to it. And this bit of info, it has a slight dimple under the H&S. However, no signs that the number was altered.

Here is the shot of the number. What is the consenses now? The placement of the numbers reminds me of the MZPP but the numbers don't really.

[Lapa]

Jeff,

No way that is a "4".

Did you ask Alex Filler about that star. He's probably the most experienced in this area.

Marc

[ericlida]

As for me the number is 2021988

Eric

[Bill Garvy]

Orders of the Red Star

-#3671477 Awarded to Junior Lieutenant Zaitsev, who served as a Deputy Rifle Battalion commander in the 354th Rifle Division. He was wounded several times, one heavy and one light, the light one in February, 1942, and the heavy wound in August, 1942.

-#3654529 Awarded late 1960's (Variation T.6, V11.3.)

-#3635023 Awarded late 1960's (Variation T.6, V11.3.)

-#3608553 Awarded to Private Chamin who received a heavy wound while fighting with the 175th Independent Division (?) around the city of Yukov in September, 1942.

-#3607071 Awarded to Captain 1st Rank Isupov, Vladimir V., for his work as Chief of Political Work at the Kiev Naval Political Course. He had served in the Red Navy for 24 years, and the award was given in 1967.

-#3603380 Awarded to Private Tverdin, who was an anti-tank gunner that first fought around Leningrad and then was heavily wounded fighting around Stalingrad.

-#3602623 Awarded to Private (reduced from Lieutenant) Gorshkov, who was awarded the Red Star in 1944, but it never got to him. The citation appears to be quite good - he was a scout unit commander with the 13th Independent Assault Rifle Battalion; a good combat citation.

-#3593277 Awarded February 20, 1968 to General Major Obadovski, Deputy Commander of Missile forces for the Caucuses military region. A citation for being a great general.

-#3592547 Awarded to private Khranovski, who served as a railroad engineer and was wounded fighting by Kupyansk in February, 1944.

-#3577763 Awarded to Lieutenant Stepanets, Vladimir P., for his fighting outside of Taganrog in June 17th, 1943 where he was heavily wounded and became an "invalid 2nd class". He was the Commander of the Chemical Warfare section of the 1175th Rifle Regiment.

-#3545566 Awarded to Senior Lieutenant Gushin, Nikolai I., for his two wounds, serving from 1935 to 1945.

-#3505880 Awarded 1956

-#3397250 Awarded 1956, with Order Book to Yuriy Kosarev, December 18th, 1956, also a Medal for Combat Service, T.2, V4 (unnumbered), awarded December 30th, 1956, possibly for action in Hungary.

-#3390124 Awarded 1955 (Variation T.6, V11.3 with late variety maker mark, approx. 9 mm wide.)

-#3352246 Awarded 1954 (Variation T.6, V11.3 with late variety maker mark, approx. 9 mm wide.)

-#3092285 Awarded 1952 (Variation T.6, V11.1.)

-#3096487 Awarded 1952, flared edges (Variation T.6, V11.1.)

-#3048269 Awarded 1952 (A Type 2 variation with flared edges, & 8 mm wide mint mark with "thick" characters. Manufactured in 1950-51 by the Moscow Mint. This is an uncommon sub-variation, T6, V10.3 with the total number issued of less than 8000.)

-#3043537 Awarded 1952, with Order Book, awarded March, 1952 to a Aleksei Nikolaevich AraPov or AraNov

-#3034631 Awarded 1952 (A Type 2 variation with flared edges, & 8 mm wide mint mark with "thick" characters. Manufactured in 1950-51 by the Moscow Mint. This is an uncommon sub-variation, T.6, V10.3 with the total number issued of less than 8000.)

-#2993287 Awarded 1951 (A Type 2 variation with flared edges, & 8 mm wide mint mark with "thick" characters. Manufactured in 1950-51 by the Moscow Mint. This is an uncommon sub-variation, T.6, V10.3 with the total number issued of less than 8000.)

-#2946816 Awarded 1951 (A Type 2 variation with flared edges, & 8 mm wide mint mark with "thick" characters. Manufactured in 1950-51 by the Moscow Mint. This is an uncommon sub-variation, T.6, V10.3 with the total number issued of less than 8000.)

-#2776603 Awarded November, 1947 with Order Book to a Mikhail Pastukhov

-#2552716 Awarded 1945. (Variation T.6, V5.)

-#2246504 Awarded 1945

-#2027729 Awarded 1946 (Variation T.6, V5.2 with a straight, 9 mm wide mint mark.)

-#1982891 Awarded 1946 (Variation T.6, V5.2 with a straight, 9 mm wide mint mark.)

-#1725896 Awarded September, 1944 with Order Book to a Sergei Mikhailovich Mironov

-#1695306 Awarded January, 1945 with Order Book to a Stepan Kuz'mih Gorbatovsky

-#1518310 Awarded 1945

-#1452643 Awarded 1945

-#1260198 Awarded 1943/1944

-#1068057 Awarded late 1944

-#1023033 Awarded late 1944

-#993316 Awarded late 1944

-#977018 Awarded late 1944

-#969225 Awarded late 1944

-#938893 Awarded late 1944

-#911677 Awarded late 1944

-#896316 Awarded late 1944 (November 3, 1944 long service award?)

-#886800 Awarded late 1944, with Order Book to Lieutenant Boris Ivanovich Olesov (long service award?) (research pending)

-#882073 Awarded late 1944

-#859391 Awarded late 1944

-#854339 Awarded late 1944

-#846227 Awarded late 1944

-#842956 Awarded September/October, 1944

-#770615 Awarded mid to late 1944

-#688772 Awarded mid to late 1944

-#673354 Awarded mid to late 1944

-#620279 Awarded mid to late 1944 (T6, V2.1)

-#568870 Awarded early to mid 1944 (T.6, V2.1) 8 mm wide mint mark slightly curved up

-#563375 Awarded 1943 (thin arms)

-#520842 Awarded 1943/1944 (T6, V1.2)

-#488011 Awarded early 1944 (?) Lighter shade and finer quality enamel than on most of the later pieces; the mint mark is slightly arched.

-#473825 Awarded early 1944

-#440825 Awarded early 1944 Early strike with very nice enamel, of finer quality than on most of the later issues. The mint mark is arched upward.

-#413214 Awarded late 1943 (July), early 1944 (March)

-#407012 Awarded late 1943 (July), early, 1944 (March) (T.6, V1.1)

-#329859 Awarded October 19th to 26th, 1943

-#295400 Awarded 1943 (T6, V1.1)

-#287974 Awarded 1943

-#287337 Awarded 1943

-#284580 Awarded 1943 (T.6, V1.1)

-#278788 Awarded 1943 (T.6, V1.1)

-#173156 Awarded 1943 (T.4, V5) Early variation with a screw post base

-#155224 Awarded 1943 (T.4, V5)

-#128401 Awarded March 15, 1943 Variation with a screw post base. Awarded on March 15th, 1943 to Military Engineer, 1st class (equivalent of Colonel) Vladimir Laschagin, Deputy Commander of the Technical Department, 9th Railway Brigade, Leningrad Front, with documents. (T.4, V5)

-#91677 Awarded 1942 (T.4, V5)

-#60929 Awarded 1942 (T.4, V?)

-#22749 Awarded early 1942 (T.4, V1) Awarded March 31, 1942 to Ivan Ivanovich Dubyaga, with Award Card, Citation, Service
Record, and translations.

-#17754 Awarded mid 1940 (research pending) (T.4, V1)

-#14570 Awarded mid 1940 (research pending) (T.4, V1)

-#12107 Awarded early to mid 1940 (research pending) (T.4, V1)

-#8236 Awarded 1940 "large, curved MONDVOR" variation. (research pending) (T.3, V 2.1)

-#7249 Awarded 1940 "large, curved MONDVOR" variation. (T.3, V 2.1) Maker mark "LE" to the reverse of the upper left arm. (research pending)

TOTAL = 75

[ericlida]

This is great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Eric

[EricFG]

Wowsers! ! ! ! !

Bill, I think you just won the most-impressive-first-post award. :)

Very nice collection indeed.

How 'bout a shot of all of them together (if such a thing is possible)?

[Bill Garvy]

Thank you for the warm welcome, gentlemen, and sorry, no group shot, yet, but I do have some individual scans. . .