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No date...
In fact, no precise datation from the IWM...
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Close-up pic
Better pic...
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well, Leonid Illitch was the first of all of us...a great collector of soviet and communist medals!!!
speciality: gather all 1st classes if possible!! 2 orders of hungary national flag with diams, 3 heros of the ddr with karl-marx order, order of the star of yougoslavia specail class, etc...
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Hunting Red HSU
Any idea (or regulatory reason) why his multiple HSUs don't appear on his uniform ?
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Leonid must have had wearer copies made specially for him, but how many? not enough to be given to the IWM it seem. I don't see traces of holes...
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No hole !!
Absolutely no hole or trace on his uniform !!
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I don't know...
I would be suspect of this unifom that it was gotten from a house worker, etc.
Anyway, the other correction is that by the end of the war he was nopt a colonel but made a major general and wore a VP generals uniform to the Victory Parade. DD |
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Brezhnev uniforms ?
Good points, Doug.
Who knows if there are other Brezhnev uniforms on display (where, in which museums, etc...) ? Does anyone know where to find a comprehensive list ? Ch. |
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Hi Doug and you all, what worries me with this uniform (altough the IWM is for me a GREAT reference) is the visor cap: the band is very tall, the badge doesn't touch the upper tip of the band like in the huge majority of photos I've seen-make me think to 90' non soviet visor cap with huge band and crown (it's for me a warning light) (for ref, I only got a xerox of yazov, p361 of kutsenko's "marshall and admirals...)"
From that distance , embroidery looks correct... Anotehr detail: they changed his BK3 ribbon for a nevski one! I don't like put doubts about such an institution like the IWM.. can anybody scan the good classic pic of Illitch (Kutsenko p.61)?
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comparing photos, the set seems a bit low compared to the lappels, the ribbons are by rows of 6 instead of 5 on officials portraits and the order of foreign ribbons is not the same.
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