Lenin. - Page 5

matteti · 03-12-2003, 05:38 PM

The gold content is supposed to be 28,604±1,1 g
The platinum content is supposed to be 2,75 g

The size of the order is 40.5 mm by 38 mm with the medallion having a diameter of 25mm.

Dietrich · 03-12-2003, 08:31 PM

Contrary to McDaniel my Lenin Type 5 V1 has # 19183 awarded to Antonina Alexandrovna Semenova on 1. July 1944. Came with booklet but without photo.

This one was obviously not observed.

regards,

Dietrich

redstar_co · 03-13-2003, 01:37 AM

Rusty
Just get use to the equipment and youll be fine

The stamp on that document looks odd

Dietrich · 03-13-2003, 10:01 AM

redstar,

did you refer in the last post to the stamp in the booklet I posted? If so, I would like to know what you think is odd about this so can provide a better picture for more intensive investigation and clarification.

regards,

Dietrich

Nota Bene · 03-13-2003, 07:44 PM

Dietrich,

I believe your stamp is perfectly OK. Such stamps were often used in the 1940s and earlier.

Alexei

Dietrich · 03-13-2003, 07:57 PM

Hi Alexei,

that's what I thought, too. Thanks for your input!
What do you make of the recipient. Any way to find out wether military or civil?

Dietrich

ibaya · 05-27-2003, 12:11 AM

These Orders of Lenin are Type 6's. The one on the left bears a "Leningradski Monetny Dvor" mint mark, and the one on the right has a "Monetny Dvor" mark.

The portrait of Lenin on the right seems more sculpted and rounded. Examing the main gold piece, it seems that the die has also been re-tooled; the reverse has a more pronounced lip along the portrait ring and the wreath border, and the surface is smoother, no "frosting". The serial number of this piece is in the 440XXX range - the one on the left is 209XXX.

Any comments?

This seems to be the most prevalent style ...

The corner where the wheat grains and the stalks meet on the lower left of the wreath is not as notched differently. Doesn't look like a defect (e.g. misaligned die), just the way the grains were sculpted ...

charlet · 05-27-2003, 11:09 AM

you're 100% exact Ibaya, and this variation exist for both lningradskii and moskovskii fabrics. Se on www.mondvor.narod.ru: they call the pointed-bearbed lenin "evil lenin" and the detailed one "gentle lenin"!

see:

new world · 07-21-2003, 09:32 AM

Tractor Lenin #227 with document

new world · 07-21-2003, 09:36 AM

Document for Tractor Lenin

I am not sure about the award itself - as I haven't seen real one - but document looks very suspicios to me.

How's it possible to get the document wet right in the middle where the serial number is, making SN and the name of the recepient almost impossible to see?

William

03-12-2003, 05:38 PM	#41
matteti Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 405	about weight and size The gold content is supposed to be 28,604±1,1 g The platinum content is supposed to be 2,75 g The size of the order is 40.5 mm by 38 mm with the medallion having a diameter of 25mm.

03-13-2003, 01:37 AM	#43
redstar_co Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 54 Posts: 67	Rusty Just get use to the equipment and youll be fine The stamp on that document looks odd __________________ Vpered k Kommunizmu

03-13-2003, 10:01 AM	#44
Dietrich New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 13	Odd Stamp? redstar, did you refer in the last post to the stamp in the booklet I posted? If so, I would like to know what you think is odd about this so can provide a better picture for more intensive investigation and clarification. regards, Dietrich

03-13-2003, 07:57 PM	#46
Dietrich New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 13	Stamp Hi Alexei, that's what I thought, too. Thanks for your input! What do you make of the recipient. Any way to find out wether military or civil? Dietrich

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