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Old 12-15-2004, 04:50 PM   #51
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Anyone have serial number and dates of issue for the following Orders:

- Order of the Red Banner
- Order of Glory 2nd Class
- Order of Glory 3rd Class
- Order of Alexander Nevsky Type 3
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:37 PM   #52
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Anyone have serial number and dates of issue for the following Orders:

- Order of the Red Banner
- Order of Glory 2nd Class
- Order of Glory 3rd Class
- Order of Alexander Nevsky Type 3

You can find them in Kutsenko's Book "Orders of the USSR". However, you aren't going to find a comprehensive list for the Orders of Glory. They were awarded in a non-sequential fashion, e.g., they were awarded based on what awards each unit had. Thus, a unit in a sector that saw less combat could be awarding a five (or even four) digit Glory 3rd in May 1945 whereas a unit that saw a lot of combat could be awarding the same award at the same time but in the 500,000+ serial number range!

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Old 12-15-2004, 09:19 PM   #53
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Pre-1947 SN's

I'd appreciate anyone's help on collecting any pre-1947 military SN's for a project I'm working. I'll need the information for type of award, SN, awarding unit & date of authorization, and finally anything interesting or unusual about award in the following manner:
Red Star, #123.456, 321MessKit Repair Battalion, NKVD Commissar
This information must be the authorization date, not the presentation date where they actually put the award in the guy's hands. This information should come from research, not from award booklets. Appropriate credit will occur. Ask if you have questions. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-19-2004, 02:55 PM   #54
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Red Banners, Glories, OPW2

Hi everyone
Just for your info I am posting Red Banner, Order of Glory 3rd class and OPW2 numbers.

McL

Order of the Red Banner
32266 05/08/42
82692 12/03/44
100421 04/02/44
104868 28/04/44
205822 10/04/45
265963 02/06/45
326692 15/11/50
365463 19/11/51
379629 27/12/51
383747 26/02/53
402918 11/03/53
454346 26/10/55
489908 30/12/56
528408 30/12/56

Order of Glory (3rd class)
98852 05/08/44
99691 01/08/44
129446 20/02/45
139464 14/06/44
210423 19/02/45
250954 07/09/45
253401 20/02/45
263859 09/02/45
292813 26/03/45
328762 31/01/45
340416 24/04/45
375700 07/03/45
386590 13/02/45
413552 05/08/45
436066 06/05/45
572633 18/09/45
632065 15/03/45
633518 06/11/47
675580 23/02/45
782702 06/08/46

Order of the Patriotic War (2nd class)
8936 19/07/43
14324 23/05/43
78292 07/08/44
135884 30/04/44
146172 21/05/44
148807 20/06/44
174328 14/11/44
204127 10/07/44
342999 29/10/44
380131 12/02/45
347347 20/09/44
384578 24/02/45
439715 21/04/45
484834 24/04/45
511495 07/05/45
524043 12/06/45
555874 15/06/45
589580 24/05/45
589585 13/03/45
680900 04/07/47
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:01 AM   #55
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Hi there.
I´m new in this thread (although I have some years in the forum) and I´d like to add the S/Ns of my awards. However, I want to know if there is a way to know the dates because I bought them with no docs.
Here they are:

OGPW 2nd class #1584231
Red Star #3538222
Glory 3rd class #273926
Military Merit #2638876

If this post has other purpose than the thread please forgive me, but help me too.

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Old 12-23-2004, 04:30 PM   #56
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Hi there.
I´m new in this thread (although I have some years in the forum) and I´d like to add the S/Ns of my awards. However, I want to know if there is a way to know the dates because I bought them with no docs.
Here they are:

OGPW 2nd class #1584231
Red Star #3538222
Glory 3rd class #273926
Military Merit #2638876

If this post has other purpose than the thread please forgive me, but help me too.

Esteban
According to the small database I have compiled here is what I can tell you:

Red Star - post 1956

Order of Glory 3rd class: If I am using other serial numbers as a reference, this one would be in the first few months of 1945. But if you read all the thread, you will see that sometimes it isn't too indicative as it would depend how active the front was etc...

The other awards, hopefully someone else can answer your querry.

Found this bit of information on another website. Thought I'd post some of it here:

Order of Glory 3rd class serial 805395.

Date of deed: 22 Jan 1945
Date approved: 20 March 1945
Date awarded: 28 March 1990

Yes 1990 not a typo. This reaffirms the need to obtain archival info to confirm for certain all the serial numbers.
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:30 PM   #57
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I'd appreciate anyone's help on collecting any pre-1947 military SN's for a project I'm working. I'll need the information for type of award, SN, awarding unit & date of authorization, and finally anything interesting or unusual about award in the following manner:
Red Star, #123.456, 321MessKit Repair Battalion, NKVD Commissar
This information must be the authorization date, not the presentation date where they actually put the award in the guy's hands. This information should come from research, not from award booklets. Appropriate credit will occur. Ask if you have questions. Thanks in advance.
Hello,
If you are still looking for info like this I have had research done on a low number Oder Patriotic War 1st class #10834 to a Political Officer in the 13th Guards Armored Brigade on August 18th ,1943 and a low number Patriotic War 2nd class #7213 to the communications Commader of 3rd Guards Cavalry Corps during the crossing of the Don early February 1942. Both awards were to Officers who ended their wartime service as Colonels. PM me and I will send it along for you.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:40 PM   #58
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Gents, I just acquired a nice T1 V3 Combat Service medal with serial number 199912. Would this medal be low enough to have been issued for the Winter War? If not, any ideas? Thanks
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Gents, I just acquired a nice T1 V3 Combat Service medal with serial number 199912. Would this medal be low enough to have been issued for the Winter War? If not, any ideas? Thanks
No. Approximately winter 1942-1943
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Gents, I just acquired a nice T1 V3 Combat Service medal with serial number 199912. Would this medal be low enough to have been issued for the Winter War? If not, any ideas? Thanks
Hi Danny,
The number of Combat Merit Medals Issued prior to the Patriotic War is in the vicinity of 21,000 to 22,000 all of these would be T1 V1. That number would include all issued for the Battles at Kalkin-gol and other areas of the Far-East border scirmages with the Japanese as well as the Winter War in Finland.
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