Red Star. - Page 61

rocketscientist · 09-23-2008, 01:40 PM

I thank you all for the nice words of support. Indeed, I like this medal but as a "wanna-be" collector, I regret not having being able to immediately detect the problem with the enamel.
In fact I realized the defect only when back home. :(

Off the records, I could negotiate a cheaper price if I would have seen the repair before paying for the medal.....:D

EricFG · 09-23-2008, 03:35 PM

You learned a good lesson and it only cost 10 or 20 bucks. That's not bad. Many of us have paid dearly for our life lessons. :)

Gold · 10-01-2008, 03:12 AM

I think there is no need to worry about this star, its number its post war, but I still wanna know what the experts say.

ANZAC · 10-01-2008, 03:34 AM

Gold

typical high numbered, post war variation. Loks ok.

Brendan:thumbsup

Kirchgoens · 10-01-2008, 04:03 AM

It's good to go. It's probably a GPW catch-up or October Revolution or similar award given in the mid/late 60's (after the "long service" days) but pre-Afghanistan.

ANZAC · 11-05-2008, 05:05 AM

How about this one. Red Star with scratchings on the back. I tried to play with making it darker so the letters stand out. Any ideas?

Brendan

ericlida · 11-05-2008, 07:21 AM

It is hard to see.
I am not sure 100%.
The first word looks like: "O gnev" - I am not sure about the correct translation - ANGER
The second word looks like: "naroda" - OF THE PEOPLE :confused:

Lapa · 11-05-2008, 08:49 AM

Brendan,

I think it might be "Ognev, Nikola(i)"

Marc

Kirchgoens · 11-05-2008, 10:13 AM

I'm with Marc on this one: "Ognev Nikolai." First, that's what it looks like. Second, using family name followed by first name with no commas is a normal name-writing convention in Russian. Today on current stuff in the daily course of work, I see names listed that way more than with first last. Third, I've seen names scratched on awards like this before. Fourth, it would be very grammatically incorrect if it said "anger of the people" because it would actually be a somewhat butchered form of "of angers of people", and "people" would have the incorrect ending ("-a" when it should have been "-ov") (I think) so I am certain it's actually some dude's name.

***desantnik*** · 11-05-2008, 11:12 AM

Yes, the name on the piece is Nikolai Ognev. Nikolai - first name, Ognev - last name.

09-23-2008, 01:40 PM	#601
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star I thank you all for the nice words of support. Indeed, I like this medal but as a "wanna-be" collector, I regret not having being able to immediately detect the problem with the enamel. In fact I realized the defect only when back home. :( Off the records, I could negotiate a cheaper price if I would have seen the repair before paying for the medal.....:D

09-23-2008, 03:35 PM	#602
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star You learned a good lesson and it only cost 10 or 20 bucks. That's not bad. Many of us have paid dearly for our life lessons. :) __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-01-2008, 03:34 AM	#604
ANZAC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 59 Posts: 343	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star Gold typical high numbered, post war variation. Loks ok. Brendan:thumbsup __________________ "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there." Marshall Geogi Zhukov to General Eisenhower, 1945

10-01-2008, 04:03 AM	#605
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star It's good to go. It's probably a GPW catch-up or October Revolution or similar award given in the mid/late 60's (after the "long service" days) but pre-Afghanistan.

11-05-2008, 07:21 AM	#607
ericlida Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Age: 71 Posts: 761	Re: Named Red Star? It is hard to see. I am not sure 100%. The first word looks like: "O gnev" - I am not sure about the correct translation - ANGER The second word looks like: "naroda" - OF THE PEOPLE :confused: Last edited by ericlida; 11-05-2008 at 07:26 AM.

11-05-2008, 08:49 AM	#608
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Named Red Star? Brendan, I think it might be "Ognev, Nikola(i)" Marc

11-05-2008, 10:13 AM	#609
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Re: Named Red Star? I'm with Marc on this one: "Ognev Nikolai." First, that's what it looks like. Second, using family name followed by first name with no commas is a normal name-writing convention in Russian. Today on current stuff in the daily course of work, I see names listed that way more than with first last. Third, I've seen names scratched on awards like this before. Fourth, it would be very grammatically incorrect if it said "anger of the people" because it would actually be a somewhat butchered form of "of angers of people", and "people" would have the incorrect ending ("-a" when it should have been "-ov") (I think) so I am certain it's actually some dude's name.

11-05-2008, 11:12 AM	#610
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,340	Re: Named Red Star? Yes, the name on the piece is Nikolai Ognev. Nikolai - first name, Ognev - last name.

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