Makers marks, Numbers & Letters - Page 7

***Art*** · 06-21-2004, 04:13 PM

Christophe,

No other ideas..as has been noted previously, this mark is unusual in that it doesn't appear like the typical makers marks we've seen. When I first purchased the award I didn't even think it was a makers mark, but thought it was simply a tired or bored craftsman maybe tapping the tip of one of his tools into the metal. It almost appears to have the same diameter as the top of a rivet. Perhaps this was the tip of the tool which was placed over the rivet and tapped, giving the rivet a small overlap?

Christophe · 06-21-2004, 05:32 PM

Art,

Thanks for your comments. Interesting to notice that this "rivet" seems to be always at the same place...

Ch.

Christophe · 06-27-2004, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Just for the sake of argument - we are all assuming that those digits are master's marks, and all researchers seem to agree on that. Has anybody ever verified this? This could also be an acceptance mark.
Alexei

Hi to all,

We did not elaborate about this remark... Has anyone a clue about this ?

Ch.

Nota Bene · 06-27-2004, 05:31 PM

Christophe,

In the new Avers-6 they call them "technical marks", whatever that means. I will try to do some research on the Russian Internet.

Alexei

Nota Bene · 06-27-2004, 05:33 PM

... and also "mintsmeister's marks". I am wondering if they had ever researched this.

Alexei

Taz · 06-28-2004, 02:47 AM

Alexei, Christophe,
This is certainly an interesting point to make. I think we have more or less all been thinking these marks are "mintsmeister's marks".
I sent a few mails to the mints asking if they had any information regarding this subject but with no response. I have a feeling it is a distinct disadvantage having to mail in English. It might be worth a try in Russian though, if one of our Russian speakers has the time. ;)
Whilst researching various other topics I have found that the people reply much more readily if the mail is written in their native language.

Eddie.

Christophe · 06-28-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz

Alexei, Christophe,
I sent a few mails to the mints asking if they had any information regarding this subject but with no response.
Eddie.

Eddie,

Excellent!! Let's see if you get results... We have nothing to lose, in all cases.

Ch.

Nota Bene · 06-29-2004, 06:26 PM

Guys,

I have tried to communicate with Moscow mint in the past, but it would seem they don't want to be bothered with such noncense :mad: I am hoping Eddie would have better luck.

Alexei

***Art*** · 06-29-2004, 07:39 PM

This may or may not help, but Henry Sakaida sent a typed letter ( in Russian of course ) and received a very cordial reply.

Nota Bene · 06-30-2004, 08:54 PM

Art,

Do you mean by snail-mail?

Alexei

06-21-2004, 04:13 PM	#61
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	Christophe, No other ideas..as has been noted previously, this mark is unusual in that it doesn't appear like the typical makers marks we've seen. When I first purchased the award I didn't even think it was a makers mark, but thought it was simply a tired or bored craftsman maybe tapping the tip of one of his tools into the metal. It almost appears to have the same diameter as the top of a rivet. Perhaps this was the tip of the tool which was placed over the rivet and tapped, giving the rivet a small overlap? __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

06-28-2004, 02:47 AM	#66
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	Alexei, Christophe, This is certainly an interesting point to make. I think we have more or less all been thinking these marks are "mintsmeister's marks". I sent a few mails to the mints asking if they had any information regarding this subject but with no response. I have a feeling it is a distinct disadvantage having to mail in English. It might be worth a try in Russian though, if one of our Russian speakers has the time. ;) Whilst researching various other topics I have found that the people reply much more readily if the mail is written in their native language. Eddie. __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski

06-29-2004, 07:39 PM	#69
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	This may or may not help, but Henry Sakaida sent a typed letter ( in Russian of course ) and received a very cordial reply. __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

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06-21-2004, 05:32 PM	#62
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Art, Thanks for your comments. Interesting to notice that this "rivet" seems to be always at the same place... Ch.

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	... and also "mintsmeister's marks". I am wondering if they had ever researched this. Alexei

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Guys, I have tried to communicate with Moscow mint in the past, but it would seem they don't want to be bothered with such noncense :mad: I am hoping Eddie would have better luck. Alexei

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