Historical Research LLC Authentications - Page 8

medals73 · 02-01-2006, 08:05 PM

For a newcomer, it is a shame names cannot be named here. But I guess I understand why. But it does make the whole discussion rather closed and in the club.

HuliganRS · 02-01-2006, 08:09 PM

medals73,

You are right. Feel free to PM me or any other member anytime you want clarification on any subject where the names are not mentioned.

Rusty.

Dolf · 02-01-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HuliganRS

medals73,

You are right. Feel free to PM me or any other member anytime you want clarification on any subject where the names are not mentioned.

Rusty.

PM sent.
I'm always happy to help denounce bad dealers

Dolf

***Art*** · 02-01-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medals73

For a newcomer, it is a shame names cannot be named here. But I guess I understand why. But it does make the whole discussion rather closed and in the club.

Ed,

C'Mon..you know the rules by now

Dolf · 02-01-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HuliganRS

Ron,

Yolkins line of thought does make sense!

Let's say you bought a Kutuzov 3 from Alexei. By selling this piece he gives you a guarantee that the piece he sold is authentic and if you don't agree you can return it for a full refund! Why not put that on paper?
The guarantee is already there, so how can it be a conflict?

He guarantees the product he sold and backs it up with his certificate!

Rusty,

I think you make a good point here.
As long as this would be a "Certificate of Guarantee", which IMHO is not exactly the same as a "COA" issued by PMD.

Just my 2 cents,

Dolf

rboomsma · 02-01-2006, 08:48 PM

I think we all agree that, if we buy an order from a dealer and later discover it is a fake. They would take it back. Most will.

Even the dealer we keep referring too as not the best of dealers. He even took a medal back and refunded my money when it was found to be a possible fake. He was not that pleased about it, but he did it, and it was a year after I purchased it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuliganRS

Ron,

Yolkins line of thought does make sense!

Let's say you bought a Kutuzov 3 from Alexei. By selling this piece he gives you a guarantee that the piece he sold is authentic and if you don't agree you can return it for a full refund! Why not put that on paper?
The guarantee is already there, so how can it be a conflict?

He guarantees the product he sold and backs it up with his certificate!

I don't think he should authenticae other peoples awards but he can if he wants do his own.

As fars as the dealer you are speaking about, If it's the "other "major" NY dealer" then I only wish you can read Russian! He got his butt handed to him on a major Russian forum! He tried advertising his auction catalog and majority of his high-end stuff was proclaimed to be fake!!!

I suggest not dealing with this person! He has burned one too many people and his name & reputation to many collectors is $#!#

Rusty.

matteti · 02-01-2006, 09:35 PM

Well guys, if I can add my two cents here... the dealer we refer here, I had 1 transaction in my life with him and I will always regret it.

This was about the order of Mother Heroine which I discussed in the thread here: http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...p?t=392&page=7

This man sold me a fake order of Mother Heroine and doesn't want to reimburse me. It has been over 7 months since the negotiation started with him and it's going to end now. I will get justice by other means.

This dealer is totally dishonnest and is a thief.
(Just not to create any confusion, I am referring to that dealer who is also selling coins and was attacked in his house few years ago.)

Simon · 02-02-2006, 12:01 AM

I was referring to certificates offered by NJ dealer who is often described as the pace setter.

Simon

Nota Bene · 02-16-2006, 08:20 PM

Guys,

I am not sure I understand - my guarantee is on the front page of my site for everybody to see. It's just a promise without any fancy certificates, but this is what my business is based on - mutual trust between me and the collectors. If we you talking about putting it on paper, I've always thought that my word is worth more.

Alexei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolf

Rusty,

I think you make a good point here.
As long as this would be a "Certificate of Guarantee", which IMHO is not exactly the same as a "COA" issued by PMD.

Just my 2 cents,

Dolf

Gerd · 02-17-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Guys,

I am not sure I understand - my guarantee is on the front page of my site for everybody to see. It's just a promise without any fancy certificates, but this is what my business is based on - mutual trust between me and the collectors. If we you talking about putting it on paper, I've always thought that my word is worth more.

Alexei

It still is, Alexei

Gerd

02-01-2006, 08:09 PM	#72
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	medals73, You are right. Feel free to PM me or any other member anytime you want clarification on any subject where the names are not mentioned. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

02-01-2006, 09:35 PM	#77
matteti Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 405	Well guys, if I can add my two cents here... the dealer we refer here, I had 1 transaction in my life with him and I will always regret it. This was about the order of Mother Heroine which I discussed in the thread here: http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...p?t=392&page=7 This man sold me a fake order of Mother Heroine and doesn't want to reimburse me. It has been over 7 months since the negotiation started with him and it's going to end now. I will get justice by other means. This dealer is totally dishonnest and is a thief. (Just not to create any confusion, I am referring to that dealer who is also selling coins and was attacked in his house few years ago.) Last edited by matteti; 02-02-2006 at 11:31 AM.

02-02-2006, 12:01 AM	#78
Simon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 173	I was referring to certificates offered by NJ dealer who is often described as the pace setter. Simon Last edited by Simon; 02-02-2006 at 08:52 AM.

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