All Other Fake Soviet Medals - Page 9

Shocktrooper · 05-30-2010, 06:40 AM

...and the reverses :

rocketscientist · 05-30-2010, 08:05 AM

Here I show the medal we are discussing and another one I have got from a different source. There are differences in the metal. The medal on the right looks solid copper, as it should be according to Mondvor website, the new one looks just coated brass, with the coating fading away in several locations.

cheers
sergio

Shocktrooper · 05-30-2010, 08:53 AM

Hi,

they both look genuine - maybe copper ran out of supply and the mint went on with the production of the medals using brass for a limited period of time !? Or they accidentially received a delivery of raw brass pieces (for victory over Germany medals f.e.) when they were manufacturing the worker`s medal. Or just one raw brass piece was left behind in a carrier used for raw copper coins later as it can be seen at our national mint from time to time... We just had an 1 Euro - coin with a center part made form copper, instead of white metal. A raw copper piece usually used for 5 - Cent - coins was left behind in a container later used for white metal raw pieces for the center part of the 1 - Euro - coin; and this is how it happens...

Jens*

Alfred · 05-30-2010, 12:15 PM

Nothing to worry about.

regards
Andreas

rocketscientist · 05-30-2010, 12:45 PM

I like all three of them.

ciao,
sergio

Lapa · 05-30-2010, 02:45 PM

Jens,

You should weigh them, just to be sure.

By the way, good catch with the valiant labor, it is quite scarce :thumbsup

Marc

Shocktrooper · 05-30-2010, 05:51 PM

Thank you very much !!!

EricFG · 05-31-2010, 06:45 AM

Curious; The Comprehensive Guide states these medals are of Bronze while The Mondvor website (through Prompt™ translator services) claims they are made of Copper.
Just so we're clear bronze is an alloy of copper and usually tin whereas brass is an alloy of copper and zinc.

(and 'Nordic gold', used in 10, 20 and 50 cts euro coins, contains 89% copper, 5% aluminium, 5% zinc, and 1% tin according to Wikipedia)

05-31-2010, 08:57 AM

Hi Gents,

I saw that medal, what do you think?

Thanks,

Marc

ph3s · 05-31-2010, 09:23 AM

I think there is no point to fake those yet :). Unless it's got inscribed number and hanging in triangle suspension. No worry it's good, silver made, soviet, post wwII medal.

05-30-2010, 08:53 AM	#83
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: All Other Medals Hi, they both look genuine - maybe copper ran out of supply and the mint went on with the production of the medals using brass for a limited period of time !? Or they accidentially received a delivery of raw brass pieces (for victory over Germany medals f.e.) when they were manufacturing the worker`s medal. Or just one raw brass piece was left behind in a carrier used for raw copper coins later as it can be seen at our national mint from time to time... We just had an 1 Euro - coin with a center part made form copper, instead of white metal. A raw copper piece usually used for 5 - Cent - coins was left behind in a container later used for white metal raw pieces for the center part of the 1 - Euro - coin; and this is how it happens... Jens* Last edited by Shocktrooper; 05-30-2010 at 09:06 AM.

05-30-2010, 12:15 PM	#84
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: Woenkomat Medals Nothing to worry about. regards Andreas

05-30-2010, 12:45 PM	#85
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Woenkomat Medals I like all three of them. ciao, sergio

05-30-2010, 02:45 PM	#86
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Woenkomat Medals Jens, You should weigh them, just to be sure. By the way, good catch with the valiant labor, it is quite scarce :thumbsup Marc

05-30-2010, 05:51 PM	#87
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: Woenkomat Medals Thank you very much !!!

05-31-2010, 06:45 AM	#88
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: All Other Medals Curious; The Comprehensive Guide states these medals are of Bronze while The Mondvor website (through Prompt™ translator services) claims they are made of Copper. Just so we're clear bronze is an alloy of copper and usually tin whereas brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. (and 'Nordic gold', used in 10, 20 and 50 cts euro coins, contains 89% copper, 5% aluminium, 5% zinc, and 1% tin according to Wikipedia) __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

05-31-2010, 09:23 AM	#90
ph3s Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: £ U.c K. Posts: 189	Re: All Other Medals I think there is no point to fake those yet :). Unless it's got inscribed number and hanging in triangle suspension. No worry it's good, silver made, soviet, post wwII medal. __________________ whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger (c)

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