For Service To The Motherland In The Armed Forces Of The USSR. - Page 7

Dave · 11-05-2006, 05:02 PM

Alexei-

I haven't a clue! I've owned a bunch but have NEVER seen anything like that!

Dave

***desantnik*** · 11-05-2006, 08:38 PM

Wierd - looks like it got in a bar fight with a mint punch tool and lost.

Nota Bene · 11-12-2006, 12:44 PM

A couple of experts have suggested that probably at some point there was a pin attached to it. The catch was where two holes used to be, and the pin's attachment hinge was on the other side. I guess this is the only possible explanation. What still puzzles me is that the screwpost has no evidence of ever been messed with.

Alexei

GeoKeith · 11-25-2007, 02:44 PM

Several years back, I was able to purchase an Orger of the Motherland 1st Class. I had this piece authenticated by Paul McDaniels, and it has the early-form "ridges" to the rays when viewed in the reverse. I have tried to have it researched, but have been unsuccessful to date. Does anyone have information on researching these types of pieces? The engraved serial number is #09, which Art has in his military awards image & description database for this award. Any comments on finding history on this piece would be appreciated.

Regards,

Geokeith

Nota Bene · 03-14-2008, 07:03 PM

Genuine piece, no doubt about that. Also an interesting variation with faint rays on the back of the bottom star point.

I am doing some research on the Service to the Motherland in the Armed Forces 3rd Class mirror reverse variation. So far I have observed the following pieces:

1113-1155 (1916 has plain reverse),
2037-2618 (2684 has plain reverse), as well as numbers
2733 (number 2478 has plain reverse),
3341, (number 3624 has plain reverse),
4399 and 4417 (number 4953 has plain reverse),
4994, 5388 (5706 has plain reverse),
5748,
54XXX (!!!)

The other variation I am interested in is a partial mirrow image reverse with the lines present only on the bottom ray of the rayed star. So far I have seen:

10621, 13530 (weak image), 19137, 22380, 26724 and 27015.

Would love to know what you have/have seen and would appreciate detailed pictures either here or by e-mail.

Alexei

akula · 08-07-2008, 10:29 PM

Service to Motherland 2nd #0163

Brian2 · 08-15-2008, 07:23 PM

Here's mine, SN 2379

Nota Bene · 08-15-2008, 07:26 PM

Brian,

Many thanks! This one falls in the 2037-2618 serial number range.

Alexei

Lapa · 08-16-2008, 06:08 AM

Alexei,

#0459, mirror reverse
#0870, mirror reverse
#0944, flat reverse

Marc

Lapa · 08-16-2008, 06:13 AM

#1455, mirror reverse
#2565, mirror reverse
#2576, mirror reverse

11-25-2007, 02:44 PM	#64
GeoKeith New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston, USA Posts: 13	For Service of the Motherland 1st Class Several years back, I was able to purchase an Orger of the Motherland 1st Class. I had this piece authenticated by Paul McDaniels, and it has the early-form "ridges" to the rays when viewed in the reverse. I have tried to have it researched, but have been unsuccessful to date. Does anyone have information on researching these types of pieces? The engraved serial number is #09, which Art has in his military awards image & description database for this award. Any comments on finding history on this piece would be appreciated. Regards, Geokeith

08-15-2008, 07:26 PM	#68
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Doing Some Research on the "Spider" Brian, Many thanks! This one falls in the 2037-2618 serial number range. Alexei

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	A couple of experts have suggested that probably at some point there was a pin attached to it. The catch was where two holes used to be, and the pin's attachment hinge was on the other side. I guess this is the only possible explanation. What still puzzles me is that the screwpost has no evidence of ever been messed with. Alexei

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