Ribbons for Flags - Page 4

DougD · 10-31-2003, 05:00 PM

Check my thread on the 18oth rifle division standard; it has a few of these; they are award standards for units, to denote they were awarded certain orders.....for example, the 180th Rifle Div. was awarded the red banner, so it had a red and white streamer attached to the flag pole.

DougD

Tal Inbar · 12-09-2005, 05:18 AM

In an UN-ISSUED condition. They are OLD ribbons, I know because I bought some of them....They are great items to have.

Tal Inbar · 12-09-2005, 04:54 PM

BTW, I saw only Orders ribbons. Were ribbons of MEDALS also bestowed on banners?

DougD · 12-09-2005, 06:58 PM

I have seen medals for campaigns on flags, but i do not think it was as widespread as orders going on the flags.

DougD

Tal Inbar · 12-09-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DougD

I have seen medals for campaigns on flags, but i do not think it was as widespread as orders going on the flags.

DougD

Doug,

Have you seen the actual medals or ribbons representing them?

Tal

DougD · 12-09-2005, 07:15 PM

No, not the ribbons. I know they made the ribbons for the flags, to be used instead of putting the actual orders on the flags, but at times they did both; using the order-streamers and the orders themselves (pretty rare though). As for the medals, I have never seen medal ribbon-streamers for flags, but have seen the actual medals on the flags. Again, i think this was pretty unofficial.

DougD

Nota Bene · 12-11-2005, 03:48 PM

Doug,

Could you give an example. I didn't know that they awarded medals to units. At the same time I have seen badges, designed exclusively for banners, like DOSAAF and earlier defense preparedness badges...

Alexei

DougD · 12-11-2005, 03:57 PM

I am trying to find the pic that I remember; it showed a unit flag with 1 or 2 orders, screwed on to cloth and then the cloth sewn on to the flag, with a few medals hanging next to them. I know it was in a book, but i can not remember the bok. I'll hunt it down.

I do not think that the units were awarded the medals, but my guess would be they were campain medals showing where the unit had fought at, done by the unit without official orders.

DougD

Nota Bene · 12-11-2005, 04:10 PM

Doug,

I am looking forward to the picture...

The reason I am so curious is because the Soviets exercised a very tight control over the medals, and (me thinks) a medal could not appear on a banner without an official award document and a corresponding Ukaz. I can still imagine a veteran attaching his own medal to his unit combat banner at some sort of a commemorative ceremony.

Alexei

Tal Inbar · 12-24-2005, 09:23 AM

Recent additions:

10-31-2003, 05:00 PM	#31
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	award streamers Check my thread on the 18oth rifle division standard; it has a few of these; they are award standards for units, to denote they were awarded certain orders.....for example, the 180th Rifle Div. was awarded the red banner, so it had a red and white streamer attached to the flag pole. DougD

12-09-2005, 04:54 PM	#33
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	BTW, I saw only Orders ribbons. Were ribbons of MEDALS also bestowed on banners? __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

12-09-2005, 06:58 PM	#34
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	medals I have seen medals for campaigns on flags, but i do not think it was as widespread as orders going on the flags. DougD

12-09-2005, 07:15 PM	#36
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	medals No, not the ribbons. I know they made the ribbons for the flags, to be used instead of putting the actual orders on the flags, but at times they did both; using the order-streamers and the orders themselves (pretty rare though). As for the medals, I have never seen medal ribbon-streamers for flags, but have seen the actual medals on the flags. Again, i think this was pretty unofficial. DougD

12-11-2005, 03:57 PM	#38
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	medals I am trying to find the pic that I remember; it showed a unit flag with 1 or 2 orders, screwed on to cloth and then the cloth sewn on to the flag, with a few medals hanging next to them. I know it was in a book, but i can not remember the bok. I'll hunt it down. I do not think that the units were awarded the medals, but my guess would be they were campain medals showing where the unit had fought at, done by the unit without official orders. DougD

12-11-2005, 03:48 PM	#37
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Doug, Could you give an example. I didn't know that they awarded medals to units. At the same time I have seen badges, designed exclusively for banners, like DOSAAF and earlier defense preparedness badges... Alexei

12-11-2005, 04:10 PM	#39
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Doug, I am looking forward to the picture... The reason I am so curious is because the Soviets exercised a very tight control over the medals, and (me thinks) a medal could not appear on a banner without an official award document and a corresponding Ukaz. I can still imagine a veteran attaching his own medal to his unit combat banner at some sort of a commemorative ceremony. Alexei

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