Fake Ushakov Medals - Page 5

Lapa · 06-19-2009, 04:17 AM

Sergei,

You are right, the pictures are simply :thumbsdown

I believe that the suspension is a fake. I don't overly like the chain, although it seems be looking alright.
Regarding the medallion, I am sitting on the fence. On the back, the first 2 and the last digits look OK, then the "2" is almost grotesque. I like the front, apart from Ushakov's puffy left eyelids.
The only thing I can tell for sure is that, at best, the ring was broken and the medal was grubbily repaired.

Marc

Nota Bene · 06-19-2009, 11:49 AM

Based on these pictures, I tend to like the medallion despite the weird "2". The suspension and the chain are suspicious to say the least, but I think the chain may still have some original links.

Alexei

Sergei · 06-20-2009, 05:33 AM

Thanks, gentlemen,
I thought Ushakov's suspension should always have the eyelets for the chain (at the top of suspension) soldered to the back of the suspension plate, not between the two plys. Is this correct?
Sergei

Lapa · 06-20-2009, 08:23 AM

Sergei,

Correct :thumbsup

Marc

Sergei · 06-22-2009, 01:33 AM

Marc, Alexei,
Thanks. I know the pictures are lousy, I have a new camera but I need to learn how to handle light.
My impression is that these suspensions are used on modern Ushakov medals of RF. Not that I've seen one in life, only scans.
Pity the medal will have to go, I liked the medallion.
Thanks,
Sergei

Alfred · 05-30-2010, 12:01 PM

Just to be sure. What do you think about this one?
I don´t like it.

regards and thanks
Andreas

deValcourt · 05-30-2010, 03:55 PM

It also seems to have the same problem many of the fakes of this one have - the serial number is too deeply pressed (right half) and the anchor has too pronounced a "spine." Just an opinion since I'm going on reference material only here.

Phillip

Nota Bene · 06-02-2010, 07:11 PM

It's an earlier "crooked nose" fake.

Alexei

Alfred · 06-06-2010, 07:47 AM

Hi,

what do you think about this Ushakov medal with s/n: 15.180.
According to Mondvor 15.651 is the highest observed serial number.

The last upper chain on the left side is most likely an replacement.

best regards and thanks
Andreas

Nota Bene · 06-06-2010, 12:28 PM

The last scan is a little out of focus, but looks good. There are some replacement links in the chain.

Alexei

06-19-2009, 04:17 AM	#41
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Ushakov 6821 Sergei, You are right, the pictures are simply :thumbsdown I believe that the suspension is a fake. I don't overly like the chain, although it seems be looking alright. Regarding the medallion, I am sitting on the fence. On the back, the first 2 and the last digits look OK, then the "2" is almost grotesque. I like the front, apart from Ushakov's puffy left eyelids. The only thing I can tell for sure is that, at best, the ring was broken and the medal was grubbily repaired. Marc

06-19-2009, 11:49 AM	#42
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals Based on these pictures, I tend to like the medallion despite the weird "2". The suspension and the chain are suspicious to say the least, but I think the chain may still have some original links. Alexei

06-20-2009, 05:33 AM	#43
Sergei Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 199	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals Thanks, gentlemen, I thought Ushakov's suspension should always have the eyelets for the chain (at the top of suspension) soldered to the back of the suspension plate, not between the two plys. Is this correct? Sergei

06-20-2009, 08:23 AM	#44
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals Sergei, Correct :thumbsup Marc

06-22-2009, 01:33 AM	#45
Sergei Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 199	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals Marc, Alexei, Thanks. I know the pictures are lousy, I have a new camera but I need to learn how to handle light. My impression is that these suspensions are used on modern Ushakov medals of RF. Not that I've seen one in life, only scans. Pity the medal will have to go, I liked the medallion. Thanks, Sergei

05-30-2010, 03:55 PM	#47
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals It also seems to have the same problem many of the fakes of this one have - the serial number is too deeply pressed (right half) and the anchor has too pronounced a "spine." Just an opinion since I'm going on reference material only here. Phillip __________________ Phillip

06-02-2010, 07:11 PM	#48
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals It's an earlier "crooked nose" fake. Alexei

06-06-2010, 12:28 PM	#50
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Fake Ushakov Medals The last scan is a little out of focus, but looks good. There are some replacement links in the chain. Alexei

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