Photographs Of Recipients Of Soviet Awards/Service Personnel.

[CtahhR]

That PRB Order Of 9-9-44 1st Class really dwarfs the standard size Soviet Medals.... What would the four awards after it be?

[Tretov]

Originally Posted by Will

Yes, that was my question.

In the CIA, for example, the personnel have "military equivalent" ranks. These determine who are superior officers or equals when CIA employees are dealing with the military.

I was therefore wondering whether there was an assigned military rank for the position of "KGB Chairman"?

Not that I know of. As far as I know, Andropov did not hold any military rank during his time as head of the KGB. I am sure someone can put this better, but it is a matter of position rather than rank.

Originally Posted by CtahhR

That PRB Order Of 9-9-44 1st Class really dwarfs the standard size Soviet Medals.... What would the four awards after it be?

The orders next to the huge Bulgarian award are
Czechoslovak "Order of Red Banner"
East German "Order Fatherland Merit" III class
East German "Combat order Merit for the Nation and Fatherland" I and II class
Poland "Order Polonia Restituta"

I think I have a text list of all his awards somewhere.

[Tretov]

Soviet Union
Order of Lenin
Order of October Revolution
Order of the Patriotic War 1st class
Order of the Red Banner of Labor
Order of the Red Banner of Labor
3x Order of the Red Star.
Medal for Combat service
Medal for the 100th anniversary of the birth of V.I. Lenin
Medal for Safeguarding frontiers
Medal for the Defense of Moscow
Medal for the Defense of Caucasus
Medal for the Victory over Germany
Medal for the 20th anniversary of the Victory over Germany
Medal for the 30th anniversary of the Victory over Germany
Medal for the 40th anniversary of the Victory over Germany
Medal for Combat Cooperation
Medal for 30th anniversary of the Soviet army and navy
Medal for 40th anniversary of the Soviet armed forces
Medal for 50th anniversary of the Soviet armed forces
Medal for 60th anniversary of the Soviet armed forces
Medal for 70th anniversary of the Soviet armed forces
Medal for 50th anniversary of the Soviet militia
Medal for 1500th anniversary of the foundation of Kiev
Medal for 20 years of Irreproachable Service

Foreign
Order of 9th September 1st class (Bulgarian Peoples Republic)
Order of the Red Banner (Czechoslovakian Socialist Republic)
Order of Suche-Bataar (Mongolian Peoples Republic)
Order of the Polar Star (Mongolian Peoples Republic)
Order of Combat Service (Mongolian Peoples Republic)
Fatherland Merit Order (German Democratic Republic)
Order of Service to People and fatherland 1st class (German Democratic Republic),
Order of Service to people and fatherland 2nd class (German Democratic Republic)
Order of Polonia Restituta (Polish Peoples Republic)

Other decorations
Ukraine SSR State prize 1st class
Honoured Co-Worker of the KGB
25th anniversary of the Victory in WW2

[DougD]

Last time I was in the KGB Museum in Moscow his tunic was on display, under glass. I took a photo of it and I think it is in another thread.

[deValcourt]

Originally Posted by Will

Philip....
Could you expand on that?

The photograph raises the question (in my mind, anyway) as to what rank would have been displayed when a KGB Chairman wore a uniform?

Four stars?

From what we've seen from photos of high-ranking KGB officers, the uniforms are usually Red Army issue. Personally, I have not seen a photo of a KGB officer with the usual Royal Blue piping but the uniforms as such do exist. In fact, I wish I knew the thread Doug mentioned.

Phillip

[Tretov]

I think (I may of course be wrong) this is the uniform Doug means:

http://soviet-awards.com/forum/sovie...html#post21662

It is not Fedortjuk, but one of his KGB fellows, Viktor Chebrikov.

[deValcourt]

Thanks Patrick. Good find.:thumbsup This is only a guess, but with a few exceptions, KGB generals were appointed to the KGB after serving elsewhere (Red Army mostly) and thus the red piping. I've only seen black and white photos of KGB generals that were straight line agency men like Oleg Kalugin.

Just guessing, Marc - so I can't "elaborate" on the above.:chuckle

Phillip

[kliment]

Is this man in the uniform of the KGB? KGB generals wore uniforms with red piping, army type, but MVD generals wore the brick-red piping. I think we have here a brick-red piping, consistent with the years of service of this gentleman (KGB chairman in 82, army general in 82, minister of the interior from 82 to 86).

[Tretov]

Originally Posted by kliment

Is this man in the uniform of the KGB? KGB generals wore uniforms with red piping, army type, but MVD generals wore the brick-red piping. I think we have here a brick-red piping, consistent with the years of service of this gentleman (KGB chairman in 82, army general in 82, minister of the interior from 82 to 86).

I don't really follow, he was in the Ukraine KGB before the all-union KGB, why would he use a MVD uniform then?

[kliment]

He became an army general (the rank he wear on the picture) sometime in 1982 and in december 82, he became soviet interior minister.

Федорчук, Виталий Васильевич — Википедия

It seems to me that the picture was taken during his time as MVD boss (that kind of picture in full attire were more frequent in MVD than KGB). May be an uniform just like this:

Щёлоков, Николай Анисимович — Википедия