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Old 09-12-2014, 01:10 AM   #1
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Smersh group - fake?

This is offered right now from Ukraine - a goup of 3 docsto the same officer for a relatively low price. What seems strange to me (no expert at these) is that they all have the same photograph - and similar dates - a way to cover a fake?
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:10 AM   #2
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Re: Smersh group - fake?

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Re: Smersh group - fake?

Unfortunately there are many signs pointing to a solid fake. Same photographs - with the same strange "forced" discolouration. The same handwriting on all 3 items and the fact that an officer with such a name and group of awards can't be found on "the site" - yes I looked and whilst looking found a non-Red Banner Captain Zaharov that could raise eyebrows.
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Re: Smersh group - fake?

The story continues.
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Re: Smersh group - fake?

I just noticed that there are exactly the same stamps used on all the documents and the stamp "SMERSH" on the last document looks out of place, so I am not interested in it anymore.

Where did You find the additional documents? Such things are available on podvig?
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I forgot to mention the stamps.

Oh yes! It is amazing what goodies are surfacing - and more every day!
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