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[deValcourt]

Originally Posted by yusom

The certificate of the instructor of parachuting. On internal pages - parachute jumps which it has made, from what height. Health of the owner...

Yes, I see that also Yuri. But now I have a question, too. Since this was parachuting through the voluntary OSOAVIAKhIM (pre-DOSAAF), would this also have been part sport (as the cover suggests) and part paramilitary training? I'm thinking that it didn't become an intensive military pre-training organization until after the dates on this document (i.e., once the war broke out).

Regardless, David, you have a very interesting and as far as I know scarce document there. Not many of those "floating" around.:chuckle It's definitely a keeper in my book.:thumbsup

Phillip

[yusom]

Undoubtedly, aeroclubs very widespread before war involved youth in sports which was at the same time and premilitary preparation...

[RT88]

Thanks for the information guys! Very interesting. Is there a possibility that he would have served during the great patriotic war as a paratrooper?

David.

[desantnik]

There is a possibility, but impossible to tell from the information presented. Parachuting along with other paramilitary "sports" were encouraged by the Soviet government in the '30's so many civilians wore the parachute badge along with the Voroshilov marksman/GTO/PVKhO badges.

[yusom]

I think, that was so - all skills such were used in war and nobody would send such expert to be at war in fleet or in tank armies. They participated in military landings, were thrown in rear of the enemy or to partisans...

[matteti]

Hello,
I need help reading two last names.

1) A Ukrainian boy born in 1980, Aleksandr ??????

2) A woman dead in 1980 in Salavat, Bashkir ASSR: Aleksandra Vassilievna ???? (is it Сырова = Syrova?)

Thanks a lot!

[Auke]

1st - Aleksandr Tymenyuk
2nd - Aleksandra Vasilyevna Syrova, died on 28 August 1980

[Auke]

I often see the words "огнем и колесами", for example in "орудие непосредственной поддержки пехоты и кавалерии огнем и колесами" or "артиллеристы сопровождали их огнем и колесами". How should one translate this? "with guns with wheels"?

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by Auke

I often see the words "огнем и колесами", for example in "орудие непосредственной поддержки пехоты и кавалерии огнем и колесами" or "артиллеристы сопровождали их огнем и колесами". How should one translate this? "with guns with wheels"?

Auke "the guns supported with fire and maneuver" would be better, there was no logistical support involved. I assume this dealt with self-propelled artillery so the guns didn't have to be towed, which inevitably left time gaps when advancing infantry wasn't covered due to guns moving to a new firing location.

I've also seen this applied to straight armor, and the word "gusenitsami" (tracks) instead of "wheels", implying to me the author was praising the armor's shock effect by plowing straight into or over the enemy...

[Alfred]

What is the first name of the guy?

thanks and regards
Andreas


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