"Polar Star" Order.

DutchBoy · 08-31-2004, 09:48 AM

Now selling on eBay, a Polar Order of a variation not yet mentioned in this post: a "2003 version" made of brass instead of silver, with a pin mount instead of a screwback. It has a serial number higher than any variation 4 as mentioned in this thread: 31,834.

Gentlemen, any ideas on the authenticity of this order? :confused:

See attached pics.

Matt.

Dolf · 08-31-2004, 12:09 PM

I saw it too and I must say it's the very first time I see a piece like this! :confused:

Any opinions? Jan?

Dolf

vatjan · 08-31-2004, 01:18 PM

:confused: :confused: Well, gentlemen, I think we've discovered a new Type of OPS.
Unfortunatly, as with other recent global medals and orders, the quality seems to be degrading.

Jan

HuliganRS · 08-31-2004, 01:20 PM

Can't get anything past you guys!

I thought that no one will see it and I'll get it for the $50!!! Now I think the price will increase some... :cry: :p

Rusty.

new world · 12-08-2004, 06:35 PM

This is the most unusual Polar Star I've ever seen. Seller's description:

"This is the latest variation of Polar Star relased in 2003 by the Mongolian government. This specific order is brass made and un-numbered!!!!!"

Is this real thing?

William

rboomsma · 12-08-2004, 06:50 PM

I saw this on ebay also from the seller I buy mongolian awards from.
My understanding is they are real, but not anything like the older versions.

I wouldn't bother with these myself. Just to cheap looking.

Just as note his opening prices are rising.

Quote:

Originally Posted by new world

This is the most unusual Polar Star I've ever seen. Seller's description:

"This is the latest variation of Polar Star relased in 2003 by the Mongolian government. This specific order is brass made and un-numbered!!!!!"

Is this real thing?

William

Dolf · 12-08-2004, 07:19 PM

William,

Yes, this is what our fellow expert on Mongolian Awards, Jan (Vatjan) calls OPS T. V.
I have one, but mine is numbered. So, apparently this is a new variation of this new T. V, I guess! Jan, it seems you have to update your database once again :)
Ron is right, the quality of these Orders is far from the older Types ( II, III and IV ) but I believe they are real. At least the seller Ron mentions (so you are one of those who outbids me sometimes Ron?... ;) ) never deceived me so far with any kind of fakes!

Dolf

vatjan · 05-03-2005, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new world

This is the most unusual Polar Star I've ever seen. Seller's description:

"This is the latest variation of Polar Star relased in 2003 by the Mongolian government. This specific order is brass made and un-numbered!!!!!"

Is this real thing?

William

I've been told that the new ORCB's, ORBL's and OCM's are now also made of goldcoloured brass, rather than from silver. I don't have pix yet, but I bet they are ugly :p

Jan

rboomsma · 05-03-2005, 11:13 AM

Yes I have seen one they are very cheap looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vatjan

I've been told that the new ORCB's, ORBL's and OCM's are now also made of goldcoloured brass, rather than from silver. I don't have pix yet, but I bet they are ugly :p

Jan

medals73 · 01-16-2010, 06:43 AM

Type 5

Or Type 4.2. The nasty ugly shameful brass one. You also see these unnumbered, obvious escapees from stock, sneaked out the back door.

08-31-2004, 01:20 PM	#4
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08-31-2004, 12:09 PM	#2
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	I saw it too and I must say it's the very first time I see a piece like this! :confused: Any opinions? Jan? Dolf

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vatjan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: brussels, Belgium Age: 55 Posts: 131	:confused: :confused: Well, gentlemen, I think we've discovered a new Type of OPS. Unfortunatly, as with other recent global medals and orders, the quality seems to be degrading. Jan

12-08-2004, 07:19 PM	#7
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	William, Yes, this is what our fellow expert on Mongolian Awards, Jan (Vatjan) calls OPS T. V. I have one, but mine is numbered. So, apparently this is a new variation of this new T. V, I guess! Jan, it seems you have to update your database once again :) Ron is right, the quality of these Orders is far from the older Types ( II, III and IV ) but I believe they are real. At least the seller Ron mentions (so you are one of those who outbids me sometimes Ron?... ;) ) never deceived me so far with any kind of fakes! Dolf

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