Fake Jubilee & Anniversary Medals

latinmajorac · 07-11-2006, 10:32 AM

okay. this is being listed on e-bay right n ow. 1$ opening bid 29$ BIN

are things like this possible? any thoughts or comments would be welcome
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Hello. You are watch an excellent COPY of one of the most rare Soviet military awards "20 years of Soviet Partisan army (RKKA)". This award was established in 1923.

Officers and privates of regular army were not awarded by this medal. Only those who defended motherland as a partisan were awarded. This particular medal was established to 20 years anniversary of army that consists of workers and peasants (RKKA - Workers and Peasants Red Army). During civil war RKKA fought against former parts of Tzar army, and during WWII - as partisans against Germans.

Original medal costs about 800-1000$. This copy is very detailed and close to original. I know a man, that used to make those copies. After the collapse of a Soviet Union, he has stolen moulds that were used to make some Soviet Medals and Orders. This copy is stamped by original press and original mould. Tecnically - this is not a copy, this is a clone of original, that was made in early 90's. It is also numbered on thó rim. The condition of this one is 100% mint.

Unfortunately my camera has problems with colors :( (the background was a WHITE paper)In a real life medal looks much better and hardly can be distinguished from original.

It is sometimes funny to read, when ebay sellers write smth like that: " I don't know whether it is original or not", when trying to sell cheap fake for couple of dollars of badge or medal, that costs thousands. Now everything is honest&clear - this is Copy, yet it is the MOST CLOSE to the original. Still wonder about rather high price? - This is the only chance to buy not the copy, but the Identical Clone of original medal. Happy bidding, if you need more precise photos - write me!
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i was thinking this would be a nice filler for my collection but o dn't know if the story is possible. also, if it was made from the original molds would it be considered to be an original medal that was never issued? here are some pictures. thanks everyone

EricFG · 07-11-2006, 12:18 PM

I like the part about the medal being cloned. Gives it a mad scientist twist.
Very creative. :yow

HuliganRS · 07-11-2006, 01:04 PM

I enjoyed the 1st pic with a different suspension.

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 07-11-2006, 06:50 PM

Just a fancy explanation for an ordinary FAKE :angerr

Alexei

latinmajorac · 07-11-2006, 07:11 PM

okay, so things like this aren't really possible? fair enough. i figured with this much of a creative story it might just be true hm?

thanks guys!

Nota Bene · 07-11-2006, 07:13 PM

Nope, not possible.

Alexei

h009291 · 05-22-2007, 04:30 PM

Hi all. How does this one look?

Nota Bene · 05-22-2007, 06:54 PM

Darrell,

As for as I can tell from the pictures, looks good. I think there is a slight posibility that the enamel might have been replaced.

Alexei

h009291 · 05-22-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Darrell,

As for as I can tell from the pictures, looks good. I think there is a slight posibility that the enamel might have been replaced.

Alexei

Thanks Alexei,
I'm trying to get some more pictures.

Nota Bene · 05-22-2007, 07:03 PM

Darrell,

I am not sure if I would be able to tell from a scan. It looks like there is a small nick on one of the rays under the enamel, and it makes me a little suspicious.

Alexei

07-11-2006, 12:18 PM	#2
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	I like the part about the medal being cloned. Gives it a mad scientist twist. Very creative. :yow __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

07-11-2006, 01:04 PM	#3
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	I enjoyed the 1st pic with a different suspension. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

07-11-2006, 07:11 PM	#5
latinmajorac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Bloomfield MI Age: 36 Posts: 146	okay, so things like this aren't really possible? fair enough. i figured with this much of a creative story it might just be true hm? thanks guys! __________________ Money for College $0 Money for text books $0 Money for Food $0 Somehow finding money for my next medal purchase? Priceless starving college kid: will do calculus for Medals Newly promoted to the Deputy Kapusta Commander position

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Darrell, I am not sure if I would be able to tell from a scan. It looks like there is a small nick on one of the rays under the enamel, and it makes me a little suspicious. Alexei

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