Brezhnev Uniform and awards - Page 5

Christophe · 05-01-2003, 03:00 AM

In fact, no precise datation from the IWM...

Ch.

Christophe · 05-01-2003, 03:39 AM

Better pic...

charlet · 05-01-2003, 06:22 AM

well, Leonid Illitch was the first of all of us...a great collector of soviet and communist medals!!!
speciality: gather all 1st classes if possible!! 2 orders of hungary national flag with diams, 3 heros of the ddr with karl-marx order, order of the star of yougoslavia specail class, etc...

Christophe · 05-01-2003, 07:08 AM

Any idea (or regulatory reason) why his multiple HSUs don't appear on his uniform ?

Ch.

charlet · 05-01-2003, 08:07 AM

Leonid must have had wearer copies made specially for him, but how many? not enough to be given to the IWM it seem. I don't see traces of holes...

Christophe · 05-01-2003, 08:16 AM

Absolutely no hole or trace on his uniform !!

:confused:

Ch.

DougD · 05-01-2003, 09:12 AM

I would be suspect of this unifom that it was gotten from a house worker, etc.

Anyway, the other correction is that by the end of the war he was nopt a colonel but made a major general and wore a VP generals uniform to the Victory Parade.

DD

Christophe · 05-01-2003, 09:28 AM

Good points, Doug.

Who knows if there are other Brezhnev uniforms on display (where, in which museums, etc...) ?
Does anyone know where to find a comprehensive list ?

Ch.

charlet · 05-01-2003, 09:39 AM

Hi Doug and you all, what worries me with this uniform (altough the IWM is for me a GREAT reference) is the visor cap: the band is very tall, the badge doesn't touch the upper tip of the band like in the huge majority of photos I've seen-make me think to 90' non soviet visor cap with huge band and crown (it's for me a warning light) (for ref, I only got a xerox of yazov, p361 of kutsenko's "marshall and admirals...)"
From that distance , embroidery looks correct...
Anotehr detail: they changed his BK3 ribbon for a nevski one!
I don't like put doubts about such an institution like the IWM..

can anybody scan the good classic pic of Illitch (Kutsenko p.61)?

charlet · 05-01-2003, 09:43 AM

comparing photos, the set seems a bit low compared to the lappels, the ribbons are by rows of 6 instead of 5 on officials portraits and the order of foreign ribbons is not the same.

05-01-2003, 06:22 AM	#43
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	well, Leonid Illitch was the first of all of us...a great collector of soviet and communist medals!!! speciality: gather all 1st classes if possible!! 2 orders of hungary national flag with diams, 3 heros of the ddr with karl-marx order, order of the star of yougoslavia specail class, etc... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

05-01-2003, 07:08 AM	#44
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Hunting Red HSU Any idea (or regulatory reason) why his multiple HSUs don't appear on his uniform ? Ch.

05-01-2003, 08:07 AM	#45
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Leonid must have had wearer copies made specially for him, but how many? not enough to be given to the IWM it seem. I don't see traces of holes... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

05-01-2003, 08:16 AM	#46
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	No hole !! Absolutely no hole or trace on his uniform !! :confused: Ch.

05-01-2003, 09:12 AM	#47
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	I don't know... I would be suspect of this unifom that it was gotten from a house worker, etc. Anyway, the other correction is that by the end of the war he was nopt a colonel but made a major general and wore a VP generals uniform to the Victory Parade. DD

05-01-2003, 09:28 AM	#48
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Brezhnev uniforms ? Good points, Doug. Who knows if there are other Brezhnev uniforms on display (where, in which museums, etc...) ? Does anyone know where to find a comprehensive list ? Ch.

05-01-2003, 09:39 AM	#49
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Hi Doug and you all, what worries me with this uniform (altough the IWM is for me a GREAT reference) is the visor cap: the band is very tall, the badge doesn't touch the upper tip of the band like in the huge majority of photos I've seen-make me think to 90' non soviet visor cap with huge band and crown (it's for me a warning light) (for ref, I only got a xerox of yazov, p361 of kutsenko's "marshall and admirals...)" From that distance , embroidery looks correct... Anotehr detail: they changed his BK3 ribbon for a nevski one! I don't like put doubts about such an institution like the IWM.. can anybody scan the good classic pic of Illitch (Kutsenko p.61)? __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

05-01-2003, 09:43 AM	#50
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	comparing photos, the set seems a bit low compared to the lappels, the ribbons are by rows of 6 instead of 5 on officials portraits and the order of foreign ribbons is not the same. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

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