Generalissimus USSR Shoulder Boards - Page 3

Tal Inbar · 06-30-2002, 05:13 PM

The following marshals CCCP didn't have HSU:

1. Beria - had HSL;
2. Blucher
3. Bulganin - had HSL
4. Golikov
5. Yegorov
6. Tuchachevski
7. Shaposhnikov
8. Yazov

new world · 06-30-2002, 05:17 PM

Christian,

Actually, there were few Marshals of the USSR without Hero of SU title.

The last Marshal Yazov did not have one, as well as Shaposhnikov, Golikov, Bulganin - had HSU though.

Early Marshals who were executed in 1936-1938 also did not have the HSU title - Blucher, Tuchechevskiy and Yegorov.

CZ · 07-01-2002, 02:21 AM

Tal, New World,

that's what I mentioned: The ordinary "Marshall of the CCCP" got at least one HSU. The middle group got the shoulder boards for so called political merits or adminstrative. Yazov was too late, but at least he got a Nevsky in WW II. Kulikov for example got his HSU under Breznev.

Regards from Vienna

Tal Inbar · 07-01-2002, 07:05 AM

Marshal Golikov did not have HSU medal.

CZ · 07-01-2002, 09:01 AM

Tal,

so he was the only one ....

Regards from Vienna

new world · 07-01-2002, 07:30 PM

I am surprised that hero of WWII Marshal Shaposhnikov also did not have HSU award...

Tal Inbar · 07-03-2002, 04:36 AM

Chrisitian,

Marshal CCCP Yazov didn't have the order of Nevsky. The awards he got from WW2 are:

Medal for combat servise;
Medal for defense of Leningrad;
Medal for victory over Germany.

Maybe his Red star (which he got on 15.6.1945) was for WW2.

Tal

CZ · 07-03-2002, 06:22 AM

Tal,

sorry, I mixed up the fruitsalads of some marshalls.

The Red Star should be for WW II.

So Yazov's servicerecord as an young troop officer in WW II is not so bad: Red Star & Combat Service - for long service, he was too young at this time.

Regards from Vienna

Esteban_cool · 01-11-2003, 07:48 PM

Art:
Why Stalin used a"less rank" (from colonel and lower ranks) collar tabs on his uniforms if he was a Generalissimus?
And can you send me more bigger pics of Stalin to print´em and put it on my notebooks?
I already did it before, but my fascist partners at school bothered me more than once with this...¡But I don´t care!
¡GLORY TO COMRADE STALIN!

Esteban

DougD · 01-13-2003, 06:05 PM

The photos of the prototype Generalissimus uniform is from a uniform on display in the Military Uniforms Museum in Moscow. It is almost impossible to visit the museum as it is a closed military museum only for special guests. Through some connections I was able to visit it in August of 2002. This uniform was there, as well as a grey Generalisimus uniform that had differnt prototype boards. These boards were typical marshals boards but with an extra wreath around the soviet state seal.

The pic is great, as we were not allowed ANY photos inside the museum. Did get a free little guide book.

DougD

07-01-2002, 02:21 AM	#23
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Too early, too political/administrative and too late Tal, New World, that's what I mentioned: The ordinary "Marshall of the CCCP" got at least one HSU. The middle group got the shoulder boards for so called political merits or adminstrative. Yazov was too late, but at least he got a Nevsky in WW II. Kulikov for example got his HSU under Breznev. Regards from Vienna

07-03-2002, 04:36 AM	#27
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Chrisitian, Marshal CCCP Yazov didn't have the order of Nevsky. The awards he got from WW2 are: Medal for combat servise; Medal for defense of Leningrad; Medal for victory over Germany. Maybe his Red star (which he got on 15.6.1945) was for WW2. Tal __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism! Last edited by Tal Inbar; 07-03-2002 at 06:50 AM.

07-03-2002, 06:22 AM	#28
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Sorry Tal, sorry, I mixed up the fruitsalads of some marshalls. The Red Star should be for WW II. So Yazov's servicerecord as an young troop officer in WW II is not so bad: Red Star & Combat Service - for long service, he was too young at this time. Regards from Vienna

01-11-2003, 07:48 PM	#29
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Tell me about him Art: Why Stalin used a"less rank" (from colonel and lower ranks) collar tabs on his uniforms if he was a Generalissimus? And can you send me more bigger pics of Stalin to print´em and put it on my notebooks? I already did it before, but my fascist partners at school bothered me more than once with this...¡But I don´t care! ¡GLORY TO COMRADE STALIN! Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

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06-30-2002, 05:13 PM	#21
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	The following marshals CCCP didn't have HSU: 1. Beria - had HSL; 2. Blucher 3. Bulganin - had HSL 4. Golikov 5. Yegorov 6. Tuchachevski 7. Shaposhnikov 8. Yazov

06-30-2002, 05:17 PM	#22
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Christian, Actually, there were few Marshals of the USSR without Hero of SU title. The last Marshal Yazov did not have one, as well as Shaposhnikov, Golikov, Bulganin - had HSU though. Early Marshals who were executed in 1936-1938 also did not have the HSU title - Blucher, Tuchechevskiy and Yegorov.

07-01-2002, 09:01 AM	#25
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Tal, so he was the only one .... Regards from Vienna

07-01-2002, 07:30 PM	#26
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	I am surprised that hero of WWII Marshal Shaposhnikov also did not have HSU award...

01-13-2003, 06:05 PM	#30
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	The photos of the prototype Generalissimus uniform is from a uniform on display in the Military Uniforms Museum in Moscow. It is almost impossible to visit the museum as it is a closed military museum only for special guests. Through some connections I was able to visit it in August of 2002. This uniform was there, as well as a grey Generalisimus uniform that had differnt prototype boards. These boards were typical marshals boards but with an extra wreath around the soviet state seal. The pic is great, as we were not allowed ANY photos inside the museum. Did get a free little guide book. DougD

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