Shopping for the Order of Victory

Eugene · 02-19-2002, 11:22 AM

Christian,
You were right. It's only one Order of Victory in private hands and it belonged to King of Romania. Only it was sold not for $200,000. It was sold to person in Japan for over $4,000,000.

CZ · 02-19-2002, 12:49 PM

Dear Eugene,

USD 4.000.000,- looks a little bit too much - are you the Japanese guy who bought it? If somebody is really serious, I think he could buy it for - let me say - about USD 100.000,- for the government of yugoslavia, serbia or belgrade (just who is now the owner of the Tito-museum) and fetch Tito's Victory order, which was presented to him at the 29th of september 1945 in Belgrade. But the actual price is also determined by the sheer quality of the diamonds and other stones. The price above mentioned might be o.k., if the quality of the diamonds is rather low. 17 carat of really 1st class stones would multiply the price. Tito's order has much more symbolic value, than the order of the Romanian King and they guys at the museum can also put one of this copies in the museum. I am also secretary-general of the official "Austrian - Yugoslav Society" ÖJG http://www.oejg.net and might help, if somebody really wants to spend so much bucks for one single order.

Regards from Vienna

Eugene · 02-19-2002, 01:30 PM

Dear Chris,
I'm ready to pay $200.000 for Order of Victory. Please, help me.
The total value of diamonds and precious stones and metal wouldn't be over 100,000 - 150,000. We are talking about order which was issued ONLY 20 times. Three people (Stalin, Zukov, and Vasilevsky) received it twice. The price over $4,000,000 is not my imagination. Order was located in US before it was sold on the action to Japan. Check with professioanals in this field.

CZ · 02-19-2002, 01:46 PM

Dear Eugene,

is it possible to estimate at the Eisenhower Victory order in the library the recent market value of the stones? I think somebody must have done this before - just for insurance affairs.

Then say me what you want to offer to the YU-government and I can present your offer via our special channels. If the politicians say yes to your price, because the country needs the money, then we have to find an international bank who will garantee for the money and transfer the money to YU. Then you will fly to Belgrade - one of the most beautiful citys in the world - collect your money cash in EUR go to the museum, give the money and take Tito's Victory order with all documents and a contract from the government, that you are now the new owner.

On my societies site you have my datas and adresses.

Regards

***Art*** · 02-19-2002, 11:17 PM

Hey Christian, now you know what to get me for next Christmas! wasn't that easy?

Eugene · 02-23-2002, 10:09 AM

I'd like to get this one. Let's do something

Frieza · 02-24-2002, 05:59 PM

was there ever a suspension Order of Victory?

Tal Inbar · 02-25-2002, 03:48 AM

Hi Frieza

All the orders of victory were screw back, exept the order of victory which was awarded to Leonid Brezhneev (at his own suggestion...) which was attached to his uniforms with pins.

Tal

Gene · 04-20-2002, 05:09 PM

The Order of Victory has got to be one of the most beautiful decorations ever devised. What ever happened with this deal? I'm new here, and would love to get an update.

Tal Inbar · 04-20-2002, 05:23 PM

Gene,

P L E A S E don't start it all over again.........the only order of victory in private hands sold for several MILLION dollars.

You can trace the saga of the discussion in the Orders section, on the thread "pictures of the red banner".

Tal

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02-19-2002, 11:22 AM	#1
Eugene Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NY,NY Posts: 157	Christian, You were right. It's only one Order of Victory in private hands and it belonged to King of Romania. Only it was sold not for $200,000. It was sold to person in Japan for over $4,000,000.

02-19-2002, 12:49 PM	#2
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Dear Eugene, USD 4.000.000,- looks a little bit too much - are you the Japanese guy who bought it? If somebody is really serious, I think he could buy it for - let me say - about USD 100.000,- for the government of yugoslavia, serbia or belgrade (just who is now the owner of the Tito-museum) and fetch Tito's Victory order, which was presented to him at the 29th of september 1945 in Belgrade. But the actual price is also determined by the sheer quality of the diamonds and other stones. The price above mentioned might be o.k., if the quality of the diamonds is rather low. 17 carat of really 1st class stones would multiply the price. Tito's order has much more symbolic value, than the order of the Romanian King and they guys at the museum can also put one of this copies in the museum. I am also secretary-general of the official "Austrian - Yugoslav Society" ÖJG http://www.oejg.net and might help, if somebody really wants to spend so much bucks for one single order. Regards from Vienna

02-19-2002, 01:30 PM	#3
Eugene Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NY,NY Posts: 157	Dear Chris, I'm ready to pay $200.000 for Order of Victory. Please, help me. The total value of diamonds and precious stones and metal wouldn't be over 100,000 - 150,000. We are talking about order which was issued ONLY 20 times. Three people (Stalin, Zukov, and Vasilevsky) received it twice. The price over $4,000,000 is not my imagination. Order was located in US before it was sold on the action to Japan. Check with professioanals in this field.

02-19-2002, 01:46 PM	#4
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Dear Eugene, is it possible to estimate at the Eisenhower Victory order in the library the recent market value of the stones? I think somebody must have done this before - just for insurance affairs. Then say me what you want to offer to the YU-government and I can present your offer via our special channels. If the politicians say yes to your price, because the country needs the money, then we have to find an international bank who will garantee for the money and transfer the money to YU. Then you will fly to Belgrade - one of the most beautiful citys in the world - collect your money cash in EUR go to the museum, give the money and take Tito's Victory order with all documents and a contract from the government, that you are now the new owner. On my societies site you have my datas and adresses. Regards

02-23-2002, 10:09 AM	#6
Eugene Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NY,NY Posts: 157	I'd like to get this one. Let's do something

02-25-2002, 03:48 AM	#8
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Hi Frieza All the orders of victory were screw back, exept the order of victory which was awarded to Leonid Brezhneev (at his own suggestion...) which was attached to his uniforms with pins. Tal

04-20-2002, 05:09 PM	#9
Gene Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 34	The Order of Victory has got to be one of the most beautiful decorations ever devised. What ever happened with this deal? I'm new here, and would love to get an update.

04-20-2002, 05:23 PM	#10
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Gene, P L E A S E don't start it all over again.........the only order of victory in private hands sold for several MILLION dollars. You can trace the saga of the discussion in the Orders section, on the thread "pictures of the red banner". Tal

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