Help needed to id these items

Ivan B · 01-08-2011, 09:19 AM

Would appreciate any help anyone can give in identifying these hats and greatcoat. We are totally new to this and just obtained these and really don't know what they are.

Other photos can be obtained if needed.

Ivan B · 01-08-2011, 09:21 AM

Another photo of the greatcoat in case it helps.

deValcourt · 01-08-2011, 10:58 AM

Welcome Ivan,

The hats are for army everyday/service and parade respectively. The great coat has the insignia of an MVD major. The MVD is very roughly equivalent to the FBI. It was/is a national police force and includes the fire brigades as well.

If you have any questions about the MVD, just send me a PM or email.

Phillip

DougD · 01-08-2011, 03:34 PM

Hello Ivan,

Welcome to the forum. The first cap is a service cap, circa 1980’s, for an MVD officer. The second cap is a parade cap for an officer in the armor or artillery service of the Soviet Army, also circa 1980’s. The overcoat is for a Major in the MVD...the first cap would go well with it for making a display of an MVD officer of the 1980’s.

Email / PM deValcourt for any info you might need on the MVD, he is an expert.

DougD

Esteban_cool · 01-08-2011, 04:32 PM

Doug, are you sure the overcoat is for an MVD major? To me looks like normal red rather than brick red. I have an MVD overcoat and the colors do look different in pictures.

DougD · 01-08-2011, 04:53 PM

Esteban,

You might be correct; the red looks dark to me, but I could be wrong and it might be the regular army red. I have always found it difficult to differentiate the two reds.

DougD

Commissar · 01-11-2011, 04:59 AM

Upon first seeing it I immediately thought infantry, motor rifle what ever.
But it could be the lighting.

Nice coat though. :D
And welcome to the forum!

Ivan B · 01-12-2011, 04:22 AM

I'm afraid I can't find any tags or markings anywhere on the coat. Could this mean it's a fake/repro? (not that it really matters to us - its really just to keep his interest). if it is fake someone has gone to a lot of trouble to put in the padding and lining to the upper part of the coat.

Esteban_cool · 01-12-2011, 05:39 PM

I don´t think it is fake: These overcoats are not hard to come by and unissued ones are readily available especailly in the Ukraine. My overcoat has a paper tag lightly sewn just behind the lower right edge. There is another tag in the inside breast pocket.

Tretov · 01-12-2011, 07:43 PM

I doubt it is fake, it would not make any sense to fake these heavy coats. Very few want them, very few will pay any real money for them and they are awfully heavy to ship - not to mention that authentic ones, both used and unused, are still available in good quantities.

01-08-2011, 10:58 AM	#3
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Help needed to id these items Welcome Ivan, The hats are for army everyday/service and parade respectively. The great coat has the insignia of an MVD major. The MVD is very roughly equivalent to the FBI. It was/is a national police force and includes the fire brigades as well. If you have any questions about the MVD, just send me a PM or email. Phillip __________________ Phillip

01-08-2011, 03:34 PM	#4
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Re: Help needed to id these items Hello Ivan, Welcome to the forum. The first cap is a service cap, circa 1980’s, for an MVD officer. The second cap is a parade cap for an officer in the armor or artillery service of the Soviet Army, also circa 1980’s. The overcoat is for a Major in the MVD...the first cap would go well with it for making a display of an MVD officer of the 1980’s. Email / PM deValcourt for any info you might need on the MVD, he is an expert. DougD

01-08-2011, 04:32 PM	#5
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Help needed to id these items Doug, are you sure the overcoat is for an MVD major? To me looks like normal red rather than brick red. I have an MVD overcoat and the colors do look different in pictures. __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

01-08-2011, 04:53 PM	#6
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Re: Help needed to id these items Esteban, You might be correct; the red looks dark to me, but I could be wrong and it might be the regular army red. I have always found it difficult to differentiate the two reds. DougD

01-11-2011, 04:59 AM	#7
Commissar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 424	Re: Help needed to id these items Upon first seeing it I immediately thought infantry, motor rifle what ever. But it could be the lighting. Nice coat though. :D And welcome to the forum!

01-12-2011, 04:22 AM	#8
Ivan B New Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5	Re: Help needed to id these items I'm afraid I can't find any tags or markings anywhere on the coat. Could this mean it's a fake/repro? (not that it really matters to us - its really just to keep his interest). if it is fake someone has gone to a lot of trouble to put in the padding and lining to the upper part of the coat.

01-12-2011, 05:39 PM	#9
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Help needed to id these items I don´t think it is fake: These overcoats are not hard to come by and unissued ones are readily available especailly in the Ukraine. My overcoat has a paper tag lightly sewn just behind the lower right edge. There is another tag in the inside breast pocket. __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

01-12-2011, 07:43 PM	#10
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Help needed to id these items I doubt it is fake, it would not make any sense to fake these heavy coats. Very few want them, very few will pay any real money for them and they are awfully heavy to ship - not to mention that authentic ones, both used and unused, are still available in good quantities.

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