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Old 06-20-2021, 10:29 PM   #121
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Re: Fake Orders of Lenin

Base is good but ribbon replaced and possibly suspension too.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:55 PM   #122
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Re: Fake Orders of Lenin

I second this opinion: on the first two pics, the order is by far overexposed to light; the 3rd pciture reveals correct enamels, correct solid-gold grainy aspect and the typical light oxydation around the eyeloop region, due to the presence of silver to reinforce the gold loop.

The suspension should be a two-pieces metal variation.
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Old 06-23-2021, 07:38 AM   #123
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Re: Fake Orders of Lenin

So the Order/Medal is good but the ribbon and suspension ring is replaced?

Thanks desantnik and charlet for your help

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Old 06-23-2021, 11:26 PM   #124
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Yes, as you summarized.
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:18 PM   #125
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Hello, I got this Order today and I always do a check on the gold Karat when I get a gold order. I do the acid test and when I tested it with the strongest acid I have (22KT gold) it dissolved the gold. I tested with 18KT and it doesn't dissolve the gold. This points to the gold not being between 18-22KT instead of the 23KT. I thought that all Lenin's were 23KT Gold. I had a Lenin a while ago and it tested to at least 22KT with the acid test. Am I missing something and not all Lenin's are 23KT Gold?
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Old 07-18-2021, 11:08 AM   #126
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Update: It was returned to the vendor & relisted.

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Old 07-19-2021, 04:18 PM   #127
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That's a pity. This is a genuine Lenin.

There is a discussion in a friendly forum about the real gold content of Lenins. A collector certified during the 60ies the Mint unofficially switched to 18k instead of 23.
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Old 01-26-2022, 06:09 PM   #128
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Hello, I believe this to be a genuine Lenin Order and it is either a Type 5 or 6(one place says Type 6 another says Type 5). Any other input is greatly appreciated

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Old 01-26-2022, 06:10 PM   #129
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Last two pictures of Lenin Order
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:06 PM   #130
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Original. Nice piece!
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