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View Poll Results: Repair or not | |||
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair | 12 | 54.55% | |
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable | 9 | 40.91% | |
Repair the enamel only | 0 | 0% | |
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel | 1 | 4.55% | |
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07-27-2013, 03:44 PM | #611 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
Hi all,
I need some advice regarding two Red Banners. One of them was originally a screw back and converted to a suspension variation and the other is a second award suspension variation but a screwpost was soldered on its back (god knows why...). What would you guys recommend me to do? |
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07-27-2013, 09:02 PM | #612 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
What are you lining up to do?
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07-28-2013, 02:34 AM | #613 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
Removing the solder and the screwpost (of the medal on the left)
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07-28-2013, 02:47 AM | #614 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
Research one of the RBs by serial number and see if the others line up with the research. If so, no need to remove solder of others.
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07-28-2013, 06:36 AM | #615 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
The second award is being Researched as we speak. But has anybody have experience with removing the solder? And why would somebody add a screwpost to a suspension order? Questions, questions...
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07-28-2013, 08:16 AM | #616 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
There may be a hundret reasons why somebody put a screw on a hanger Red Banner.
- prestige - easier to wear and so on. I have historical pictures were you can clearly see that soldiers put a screw on a hanger suspension. best regards Andreas I would only try to remove soldier from the serial number, so that the number is readable. Mybe a juwelier could do this. Last edited by Alfred; 07-28-2013 at 08:30 AM. |
07-28-2013, 08:24 AM | #617 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
Thanks guys! I think ill do that only; removing some of the solder. I hope it is tin because that would be more easy to remove I think. Maybe remove the solder of the screw back so that the later attached loop will be removed and it will be a screwback once again.
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07-28-2013, 08:33 AM | #618 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
I wouldn't be surprised if a good jeweller would "fix" everything for you for about $50.
I had some pieces that fell apart in transit that my jeweller repaired for me for a good price. Best of all he had all the correct tools on hand which would have been a bit more problematic for me. The receipts are also good for the story of the piece (or resale).
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07-28-2013, 09:05 AM | #619 |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
Hi,
I also think that these soldered items do look ugly; even, if the solder is a part of it`s history. Generally I prefer chemical solutions, because heat and drilling it off may damage the enamel or the piece itself. Unfortunately the metal usually used for this kind of conversion is lead; and there isn`t a good procedure to do so, except long-time measures BTW: I wouldn`t give the piece to anyone else to fix it for me - just exercise with chemicals and tools using coins, etc. and then do it by yourself; there is no other person but the collector, who will treat it the way it deserves ! Jens Last edited by Shocktrooper; 07-28-2013 at 09:09 AM. |
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Re: Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards.
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Would you say this solder is lead? |
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