Another coat - Page 2

Bone Collector · 06-23-2003, 10:54 AM

Sooo... does this have any effect on the price? Is 35 euros a bad or a good price (in Sweden, I know it's more than in Russia)?

DougD · 06-23-2003, 10:58 AM

It does not really affect price if its everyday or just parade. These type of items are not really aimed at collectors rather the tourist who just wants an item to take home. That being said, $30 here in the states would be pretty good, $40 ok, etc. Its tough to say if its a good price in Sweden since most of us don't know what is going on in the Swedish market.

DD

otlichnik · 06-24-2003, 01:37 AM

I don't have my regs handy but I though ALL officer greatcoats had grey boards and none had green boards. Wghat is certain is that almost no officer would in reality have had two greatcoats - one parade and one service.

Shawn

ibaya · 06-24-2003, 06:31 AM

Illustrations from the 1988 regulations ...

kabanchik · 06-24-2003, 05:36 PM

As a matter of fact, yes, all soviet officers had two greatcoats, one grey parade and one brown service. Both were required apparel for all officers.

DougD · 06-24-2003, 06:21 PM

How do you know this is "fact"?

DougD

kabanchik · 06-24-2003, 07:57 PM

I've LIVED in Russia for extended periods, once during Soviet times, at the homes of five different retired Soviet officers, and I asked every uniform question I could think of, and every one answered that he had two different greatcoats.

ibaya · 06-24-2003, 10:11 PM

I've also seen photographs of officers wearing the brown field greatcoat in military periodicals, both then-Soviet (Military Parade) and American (I remember the article, it was in the AUSA's journal, "ARMY Magazine").

I would find it hard to believe that an active duty Soviet officer would *not* have 2 different greatcoats, they were probably required issues/purchases. Maybe the reserve officers; I worked with someone who attended the reserve officer's training course at the Taganrog Electro-technical Institute, and he described the military training as pretty lax, and the uniforms, when required, were on loan.

Officer greatcoats shouldn't be confused with conscript greatcoats, which was both winter field *and* parade uniform (just white belt!).

kabanchik · 06-24-2003, 10:38 PM

If I may be permitted to qualify my last statement. Perhaps not ALL Soviet officers would own two different overcoats, but certainly those stationed in any sort of larger city would need both, especially in and around the Moscow Military District, Leningrad, the capitals of the different republic, so-called Hero Cities, the GSFG (Group of Soviet Forces in Germany, stationed in the DDR), those forces stationed in the Warsaw Pact sattelite nations, or anywhere else where the Soviets wanted their power and prestige on display. To those east of the Urals, in backwater towns and forgotten garrisons, perhaps the requirement was never met.

06-23-2003, 10:58 AM	#12
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	/// It does not really affect price if its everyday or just parade. These type of items are not really aimed at collectors rather the tourist who just wants an item to take home. That being said, $30 here in the states would be pretty good, $40 ok, etc. Its tough to say if its a good price in Sweden since most of us don't know what is going on in the Swedish market. DD

06-24-2003, 06:21 PM	#16
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	/// How do you know this is "fact"? DougD

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06-23-2003, 10:54 AM	#11
Bone Collector Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 30	Sooo... does this have any effect on the price? Is 35 euros a bad or a good price (in Sweden, I know it's more than in Russia)?

06-24-2003, 01:37 AM	#13
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	I don't have my regs handy but I though ALL officer greatcoats had grey boards and none had green boards. Wghat is certain is that almost no officer would in reality have had two greatcoats - one parade and one service. Shawn

06-24-2003, 05:36 PM	#15
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	As a matter of fact, yes, all soviet officers had two greatcoats, one grey parade and one brown service. Both were required apparel for all officers.

06-24-2003, 07:57 PM	#17
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	I've LIVED in Russia for extended periods, once during Soviet times, at the homes of five different retired Soviet officers, and I asked every uniform question I could think of, and every one answered that he had two different greatcoats.

06-24-2003, 10:11 PM	#18
ibaya Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 54 Posts: 200	I've also seen photographs of officers wearing the brown field greatcoat in military periodicals, both then-Soviet (Military Parade) and American (I remember the article, it was in the AUSA's journal, "ARMY Magazine"). I would find it hard to believe that an active duty Soviet officer would not have 2 different greatcoats, they were probably required issues/purchases. Maybe the reserve officers; I worked with someone who attended the reserve officer's training course at the Taganrog Electro-technical Institute, and he described the military training as pretty lax, and the uniforms, when required, were on loan. Officer greatcoats shouldn't be confused with conscript greatcoats, which was both winter field and parade uniform (just white belt!).

06-24-2003, 10:38 PM	#19
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	If I may be permitted to qualify my last statement. Perhaps not ALL Soviet officers would own two different overcoats, but certainly those stationed in any sort of larger city would need both, especially in and around the Moscow Military District, Leningrad, the capitals of the different republic, so-called Hero Cities, the GSFG (Group of Soviet Forces in Germany, stationed in the DDR), those forces stationed in the Warsaw Pact sattelite nations, or anywhere else where the Soviets wanted their power and prestige on display. To those east of the Urals, in backwater towns and forgotten garrisons, perhaps the requirement was never met.

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