The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Echoes of War
Echoes of War
Seeking following Soviet campaign medals for ..,

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics > Soviet Orders

Soviet Orders Physical Characteristics, History, Types/Variations, Identification, Collecting Stories, anything relevant to the collecting of authentic Soviet Orders (Ордена СССР) is here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-21-2004, 06:56 PM   #51
dannybou
Senior Member
 
dannybou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 284
Is there a good website where I could find out the recipients of this Order?
__________________
A collector from Québec!!
dannybou is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-22-2004, 03:39 AM   #52
Christophe
Senior Member
 
Christophe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Paris - Berlin
Age: 61
Posts: 1,208
Dannybou,

I don't know about a website, but S. Shishkov and M. Muzalevsky, in their book "Orders and Medals of the USSR", publish a list of 296 names (+ 3 units)of holders of the Order of Suvorov - 1st Class, with dates, but without SN.
But this list in not complete, as the Order of Suvorov, 1st Class has been awarded 393 times (including 3 units).

The book itself is not so easy to find, but is worth the try.

Cheers.

Ch.
Christophe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 12:54 PM   #53
Aharim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Washington DC (aka Disneyworld North)
Posts: 145
Suvarov 2nd Class weights observed

The following are weights for badges as numbered with comments that i noted at the time (weight is in grams):

249 - 28.4g - believed to be altered 3rd class Type 1

470 - 30.1 - w/copy of documents
670 - 30.1
733 - 30.2
1103 - 31.0 - slighty high ???
2098 - 32.0 - weight off ???

IF the standard is 29.2 +/- 1.5 the last two are outside the "official" weight. But a noted expert thought they were good. And need I state that I do not own all of these, I merely weighed them at several different shows.

According to document "Content of Precious Metals in Orders, Medals and Decoration badges of the Soviet Union" which appears to be self published or computer printed (I have a xerox of a xoerox) weight content for Suvarov II is:

Total 29.2 +/- 1.5

Body of award -
Gold - 23.085 +/- 1.045 (material Zl-Sr 950-25)(AuAg 950-25)
Silver - .577 +/- 0.028

Disk/Profile -
Silver - 3.055 +/- 0.125 (Silver 925)

Screw -
Silver - 1.212 +/- 0.062 (Silver 925)(variance may be wrong because of bad copy)

Rivets -
Silver 0.15 +/- 0.03(Silver 99.99)

Total of above calculated to add in non-precious metals works out to about 29.06. The rest is the enamel.
The variance totalled from above appears to be 1.29.

There is a theory that the "official" weight is based on that as of one moment of manufacture and earlier or later badges may have been manufactured to a slightly different standard.
Aharim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 01:00 PM   #54
Aharim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Washington DC (aka Disneyworld North)
Posts: 145
Suvorov Class III

The following are all Type 2

2117 - 24.2
2363 - 24.6
3980 - 20.3 ? ? ?
7851 - 26.4
8735 - 25.9
9672 - 25.1
10412 - 25.6
10435 - 18.5 - fake/copy
11612 - 26.9 - ?? short screw and still high??

Official weight appears tobe 25.3 +/- 1.5

Note again - weighed at various shows.
Aharim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2011, 11:34 PM   #55
RedMaestro2
Senior Member
 
RedMaestro2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
While browsing a Russian forum I found this fascinating document. The first Ukaz listed, #341, awards the Cambodian King Norodom Suramarit with an Order of Suvorov 1st Class. Ukaz #342 does the same for his son, Prince (later King) Norodom Sihanouk. The text of both decrees mentions building friendly relations with the USSR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norodom_Suramarit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norodom_Sihanouk

This Ukaz awards Emperor Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia a Suvorov 1st Class. The citation reads something like (thank you google translator):

"Recognizing outstanding achievements in the organization of the heroic struggle of the people of Ethiopia against the fascist aggressors on the side of Allies during the Second World War, marking a significant contribution to the establishment and development of friendly relations and to commemorate a visit to the USSR..."


Has anyone ever seen these decrees before? Anyone have additional information?


Cheers, :thumbsup

Alex
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cambodia.jpg (51.1 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg Selassie.jpg (51.1 KB, 0 views)
RedMaestro2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2011, 12:02 AM   #56
desantnik
Forum Moderator
 
desantnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Eurasia
Posts: 2,338
Re: Suvorovs 1st Class to the rulers of Cambodia and Ethiopia

Nice catch, didn't know about the Ethiopian one.
desantnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fake Medal Of Suvorov. Nota Bene Beware Of Fakes 3 05-27-2003 08:12 PM


USSR Army Belt 1981 Brass Buckle Original Dated Soviet Uniform 45

USSR Army Belt 1981 Brass Buckle Original Dated Soviet Uniform 45"/116 cm

$20.95



USSR ARMY Soviet Russian Carrying Sling Canvas Strap Original NOS picture

USSR ARMY Soviet Russian Carrying Sling Canvas Strap Original NOS

$29.95



Soviet Military pants

Soviet Military pants "Afghanka" Ussr Original XL

$59.00



Gas mask GP5 Large Adult Soviet USSR Military FULL SET Cosplay FAST US shipping picture

Gas mask GP5 Large Adult Soviet USSR Military FULL SET Cosplay FAST US shipping

$14.99



US & USSR INF Treaty Coin Made of Nuclear Missile Metals Decommissioned Cold War picture

US & USSR INF Treaty Coin Made of Nuclear Missile Metals Decommissioned Cold War

$26.99



vintage Soviet Union Red Army military cap - Afghanistan, new, size - 58 picture

vintage Soviet Union Red Army military cap - Afghanistan, new, size - 58

$18.00



Original Enameled Cup Mug Russian Army USSR Soviet Soldier Green Metal 1PC NOS picture

Original Enameled Cup Mug Russian Army USSR Soviet Soldier Green Metal 1PC NOS

$8.90



Vintage USSR

Vintage USSR "Druzhinnik" ID (voluntary policeman)

$13.99



Soviet USSR Stalin “Death Sentence” 20 Kopek Silver Coin for Coin Collecting picture

Soviet USSR Stalin “Death Sentence” 20 Kopek Silver Coin for Coin Collecting

$24.99



Soviet Uniform Berezka Camouflage PV KGB USSR Military Army Suit klmk Berezka picture

Soviet Uniform Berezka Camouflage PV KGB USSR Military Army Suit klmk Berezka

$99.00




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III