China id help/Fakes - Page 6

***Art*** · 08-14-2004, 03:53 PM

Guys,

I'm closing this thread in order to keep it from growing any bigger. Now that China has its own section, please post known awards as their own unique posts. For unknown awards, simply post with the message title "Unknown". Hopefully one of our members will identify it and then I will edit the title.

Art

ANZAC · 05-28-2008, 02:00 AM

I believe this is a Chinese medal for workers taking trains to Korea during the Korean conflict.

Is it authentic or a poor attempt at a fake??

Soviet_Kazimir · 04-05-2009, 07:00 AM

Hello I have this very exact medal. I traveled in the the Chinese province of Yunnan which is not as frequented as the ones in the the north or east. I found HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of different medals in these areas and I would be hard pressed to believe that they would be faking them until VERY recently and spotting fakes would be no trouble at all. Yours looks to be real but my example is a bit different. If I may ask where did you get this medal Ebay or in the China?

Soviet_Kazimir · 04-05-2009, 07:19 AM

I just took some pictures of mine for you to look at and compare. Please look at the these pictures. :)

ANZAC · 04-05-2009, 03:28 PM

I got mine fm China. I believe there wre many variations of this medal. Yours is a nice variation.

thanks for sharing.

Brendan

Soviet_Kazimir · 04-05-2009, 08:14 PM

I think the main difference between our medals is that yours was issued to an officer. Note that your medal seems to be of a higher quality.

lingqi · 04-13-2009, 10:33 AM

Hi guys, the both medals posted above are fakes. The easy part to tell the fakes are the words on reverse side. before 1956, china uses traditional character. After 1956, china push the public to use simplified character. Your medals show the simplified character on the reverse side. So that is fake because this medal was issued in early 1950s. It is hard for western collectors. actually the quality of fakes is a lot lower than the real one. Once you see the real one, you will be able to tell. there are loads of fakes in chinese market and ebay. I feel very sad every time i see collectors showing these.

Soviet_Kazimir · 05-09-2009, 01:22 PM

If they are indeed fakes which I am sure they are given your knowledge don't feel too bad I only spent a few cents for each medal. :)

ANZAC · 05-09-2009, 04:06 PM

No problems, they were given to me with a bunch of other stuff so no big loss.

Brendan

rakkasan · 06-14-2009, 03:54 AM

Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone has a photo of the reverse of an original medal, this would serve to recognize the difference between the two character styles.

thanks

08-14-2004, 03:53 PM	#51
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	Guys, I'm closing this thread in order to keep it from growing any bigger. Now that China has its own section, please post known awards as their own unique posts. For unknown awards, simply post with the message title "Unknown". Hopefully one of our members will identify it and then I will edit the title. Art __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

04-05-2009, 07:00 AM	#53
Soviet_Kazimir New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 34 Posts: 9	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? Hello I have this very exact medal. I traveled in the the Chinese province of Yunnan which is not as frequented as the ones in the the north or east. I found HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of different medals in these areas and I would be hard pressed to believe that they would be faking them until VERY recently and spotting fakes would be no trouble at all. Yours looks to be real but my example is a bit different. If I may ask where did you get this medal Ebay or in the China? Last edited by Soviet_Kazimir; 04-05-2009 at 07:04 AM.

04-05-2009, 03:28 PM	#55
ANZAC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 59 Posts: 343	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? I got mine fm China. I believe there wre many variations of this medal. Yours is a nice variation. thanks for sharing. Brendan __________________ "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there." Marshall Geogi Zhukov to General Eisenhower, 1945

04-05-2009, 08:14 PM	#56
Soviet_Kazimir New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 34 Posts: 9	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? I think the main difference between our medals is that yours was issued to an officer. Note that your medal seems to be of a higher quality.

04-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#57
lingqi New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 15	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? Hi guys, the both medals posted above are fakes. The easy part to tell the fakes are the words on reverse side. before 1956, china uses traditional character. After 1956, china push the public to use simplified character. Your medals show the simplified character on the reverse side. So that is fake because this medal was issued in early 1950s. It is hard for western collectors. actually the quality of fakes is a lot lower than the real one. Once you see the real one, you will be able to tell. there are loads of fakes in chinese market and ebay. I feel very sad every time i see collectors showing these. __________________ Best regards, Lingqi

05-09-2009, 01:22 PM	#58
Soviet_Kazimir New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles, USA Age: 34 Posts: 9	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? If they are indeed fakes which I am sure they are given your knowledge don't feel too bad I only spent a few cents for each medal. :)

05-09-2009, 04:06 PM	#59
ANZAC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 59 Posts: 343	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? No problems, they were given to me with a bunch of other stuff so no big loss. Brendan __________________ "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there." Marshall Geogi Zhukov to General Eisenhower, 1945

06-14-2009, 03:54 AM	#60
rakkasan Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Italy Age: 57 Posts: 52	Re: Chinese railway worker to Korea? Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone has a photo of the reverse of an original medal, this would serve to recognize the difference between the two character styles. thanks

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