Fake Badges "Excellent Workers' And Peasants' Red Army". - Page 3

Alfred · 01-21-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybou

Andreas, what is the mint mark on the nut?

Danny,

the same as on your nut. "fabrika Len. Emalje"

regards
Andreas

Nota Bene · 01-21-2006, 04:30 PM

Danny,

I believe this is a genuine late vatiation badge. I am not sure about the screwplate - according to Borisov this badge was only made by Leningrad mint.

Alexei

d-riemer · 01-21-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nota Bene

....according to Borisov this badge was only made by Leningrad mint.

Alexei,
what does that mean for my post #19 where I claim that the two badges shown are made in different factories based on their nutplates?

Nota Bene · 01-22-2006, 07:44 PM

Dear Dietrich,

The only confirmed information I have is from the Borisov's book, and he mentions that this badge was produced by the Leningrad Mint. By July 1941 they made 149106 pieces. May I ask where did you learn about the Leningrad enamel factory making these badges?

Alexei

d-riemer · 01-22-2006, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

The only confirmed information I have is from the Borisov's book, and he mentions that this badge was produced by the Leningrad Mint. By July 1941 they made 149106 pieces. May I ask where did you learn about the Leningrad enamel factory making these badges?

Alexei, I wonder whether Borisov is clear that these badges were only made at the Leningrad Mint or whether he is just listing the quantity made at the Mint but leaves the possibility open that they were also made someplace else. The two badges I show in Post 19 were accepted as genuine in this thread but have nutplates with other names. I have no information about the Leningrad enamel factory.

Nota Bene · 01-25-2006, 08:26 PM

Dietrich,

Both your badges look fine to me. You are right, Borisov doesn't say specifically that it was manufactured only by the LM, but if he had any information to the contrary he would've mentioned it, he always does. Still, his book is not the definitive reference on the subject, so I suppose it is possible, and I should be more careful about what I say. Lesson learnt, thanks!

Alexei

buellbum · 07-24-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Gentlemen,

Found this one on our favourite auction site. Looks like the same fake I have pictured above.

Alexei

I bought one of these identified as"current production,struck on origional dies". I'm a novice at collecting, but it suited my purpose at the time. I've
since become more discriminating in my buying (thanks to this forum), but
may still purchase a reproduction occasionally.

Alfred · 08-11-2012, 01:01 PM

Hello,

what do you think about this Excellent RKKA Serviceman badge from the 40´s.

best regards and thanks
Andreas

marsino · 08-11-2012, 04:32 PM

It would seem good, even if the incision seems to be very fresh.
Perhaps it is better to wait the opinion of Marc...

***desantnik*** · 08-11-2012, 08:05 PM

These were typically not numbered. I definitely don't like #1 and #2 is at least in the style of the day, but no telling whether original or not in light of these badges not being officially numbered at the mint.

08-11-2012, 08:05 PM	#30
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,338	Re: Excellent RKKA Serviceman These were typically not numbered. I definitely don't like #1 and #2 is at least in the style of the day, but no telling whether original or not in light of these badges not being officially numbered at the mint.

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01-21-2006, 04:30 PM	#22
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Danny, I believe this is a genuine late vatiation badge. I am not sure about the screwplate - according to Borisov this badge was only made by Leningrad mint. Alexei

01-22-2006, 07:44 PM	#24
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Dear Dietrich, The only confirmed information I have is from the Borisov's book, and he mentions that this badge was produced by the Leningrad Mint. By July 1941 they made 149106 pieces. May I ask where did you learn about the Leningrad enamel factory making these badges? Alexei

01-25-2006, 08:26 PM	#26
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Dietrich, Both your badges look fine to me. You are right, Borisov doesn't say specifically that it was manufactured only by the LM, but if he had any information to the contrary he would've mentioned it, he always does. Still, his book is not the definitive reference on the subject, so I suppose it is possible, and I should be more careful about what I say. Lesson learnt, thanks! Alexei

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