Fake "Capture Of" Campaign Medal Documents. - Page 6

EricFG · 05-24-2011, 01:35 PM

Same question about this recently purched Budapest; anything wrong? This one's been trimmed down a bit, probably to eliminate edge wear. Do you think the two hole punches affect it's overall value much?

Lapa · 05-24-2011, 02:06 PM

Eric,

I don't see anything criminal here with any of them.

As to the punch holes, let me answer you with a question: would a hole in your Budapest medal affect its value? ;)

Marc

EricFG · 05-24-2011, 03:27 PM

Maybe if it was just a little hole? :) Ah well, live and learn. Only a $20+ investment.

Re. the missing Koenigsberg stamp; just an oversight at the office?

deValcourt · 05-24-2011, 10:14 PM

I tried to catch the faded color or even the indentations of the metal from the stamp on the paper, but I don't see anything in the photos.:confused:

It could have been a local rubber stamp that was used and the ink faded, but I can't tell from just these photos (and no insult to your photographic skills - you are still "the man" when it comes to photos).

Phillip

EricFG · 05-25-2011, 08:54 AM

Nope. No indication at all that there was any sort of stamping activity anywhere on or around this booklet at any time. :)

UQWozza · 05-25-2011, 09:16 PM

I don't think the lack of a stamp is a great worry. I have a small number of documents purchased from impeccable sources that are similarly lacking the stamp. I think it can just be put down to administrative oversight, in a similar manner to the instances where I have two documents for the same individual.

Simon

EricFG · 05-25-2011, 10:25 PM

I can see some low level, third-shift assistant-clark missing a stamp (or ten) when he stepped out for just a tot or two of vodka. What I don't see is him writing the same frontnovik's name twice on a document.
Then again I, myself, have done some unexplainable things under the influence of said demon drink....a certain dusky gal from Bangkok comes to mind (a real crossway-breezer, she) but that's a story for another forum...

So....legit, I'd hope, this booklet could be? But with enough issues to make it worth less than 100%.

EricFG · 10-21-2011, 09:03 PM

Gents, got this CoB today as part of a group (see others elsewhere shortly). I've no doubts about this but just need a :thumbsup to help me sleep better tonight.
Also, help with the name and any other handwritten or stamped details if you'd be so kind?
Many thanks in advance.

***desantnik*** · 10-21-2011, 11:51 PM

Fine.

Lapa · 10-22-2011, 01:30 AM

And good too :thumbsup

It was awarded to Ivan Ivanovich Motaev.

Marc

05-24-2011, 02:06 PM	#52
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents Eric, I don't see anything criminal here with any of them. As to the punch holes, let me answer you with a question: would a hole in your Budapest medal affect its value? ;) Marc

05-24-2011, 03:27 PM	#53
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents Maybe if it was just a little hole? :) Ah well, live and learn. Only a $20+ investment. Re. the missing Koenigsberg stamp; just an oversight at the office? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.' Last edited by EricFG; 05-25-2011 at 08:55 AM.

05-24-2011, 10:14 PM	#54
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents I tried to catch the faded color or even the indentations of the metal from the stamp on the paper, but I don't see anything in the photos.:confused: It could have been a local rubber stamp that was used and the ink faded, but I can't tell from just these photos (and no insult to your photographic skills - you are still "the man" when it comes to photos). Phillip __________________ Phillip

05-25-2011, 08:54 AM	#55
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents Nope. No indication at all that there was any sort of stamping activity anywhere on or around this booklet at any time. :)

05-25-2011, 09:16 PM	#56
UQWozza Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 62 Posts: 432	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents I don't think the lack of a stamp is a great worry. I have a small number of documents purchased from impeccable sources that are similarly lacking the stamp. I think it can just be put down to administrative oversight, in a similar manner to the instances where I have two documents for the same individual. Simon

05-25-2011, 10:25 PM	#57
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents I can see some low level, third-shift assistant-clark missing a stamp (or ten) when he stepped out for just a tot or two of vodka. What I don't see is him writing the same frontnovik's name twice on a document. Then again I, myself, have done some unexplainable things under the influence of said demon drink....a certain dusky gal from Bangkok comes to mind (a real crossway-breezer, she) but that's a story for another forum... So....legit, I'd hope, this booklet could be? But with enough issues to make it worth less than 100%. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-21-2011, 11:51 PM	#59
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,339	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents Fine.

10-22-2011, 01:30 AM	#60
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake "Capture Of" campaign medal documents And good too :thumbsup It was awarded to Ivan Ivanovich Motaev. Marc

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