Suspensions, Ribbons, Ribbon Bars And Order Of Precedence.

[travel-north]

What is the correct sequence for Defense of/Liberation medals?

[Lapa]

Travel-North,

If you are talking about the order of precedence, then it is as follows:
орден Ленина;
орден Октябрьской Революции;
орден Красного Знамени;
орден Трудового Красного Знамени;
орден Дружбы народов;
орден «Знак Почета»;
орден «За личное мужество»;
орден Славы I степени;
орден Славы II степени;
орден Славы III степени;
орден Трудовой славы I степени;
орден Трудовой славы II степени;
орден Трудовой славы III степени;
медаль «За отвагу»;
медаль Ушакова;
медаль «За боевые заслуги»;
медаль Нахимова;
медаль «За трудовую доблесть»;
медаль «За трудовое отличие»;
медаль «Партизану Отечественной войны» I степени;
медаль «Партизану Отечественной войны» II степени;
медаль «За отличие в охране государственной границы СССР»;
медаль «За отличную службу по охране общественного порядка»;
медаль «За отвагу на пожаре»;
медаль «За спасение утопающих»;
медаль «За оборону Ленинграда»;
медаль «За оборону Москвы»;
медаль «За оборону Одессы»;
медаль «За оборону Севастополя»;
медаль «За оборону Сталинграда»;
медаль «За оборону Киева»;
медаль «За оборону Кавказа»;
медаль «За оборону Советского Заполярья»;
медаль «За победу над Германией в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
юбилейная медаль «Двадцать лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»
юбилейная медаль «Тридцать лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
юбилейная медаль «Сорок лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
медаль «За победу над Японией»;
медаль «За взятие Будапешта»;
медаль «За взятие Кенигсберга»;
медаль «За взятие Вены»;
медаль «За взятие Берлина»;
медаль «За освобождение Белграда»;
медаль «За освобождение Варшавы»;
медаль «За освобождение Праги»;
медаль «За доблестный труд в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
медаль «Ветеран труда»;
медаль «Ветеран Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
медаль «За укрепление боевого содружества»;
медаль «За восстановление предприятий черной металлургии Юга»;
медаль «За восстановление угольных шахт Донбасса»;
медаль «За освоение целинных земель»;
медаль «За строительство Байкало-Амурской магистрали»;
медаль «За преобразование Нечерноземья РСФСР»;
медаль «За освоение недр и развитие нефтегазового комплекса Западной Сибири»;
юбилейная медаль «XX лет РККА»;
юбилейная медаль «XXX лет Советской Армии и Флота»;
юбилейная медаль «40 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «50 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «60 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «70 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «50 лет Советской милиции»;
медаль «В память 800-летия Москвы»;
медаль «В память 250-летия Ленинграда»;
медаль «В память 1500-летия Киева»;
медаль «За безупречную службу» I степени;
медаль «За безупречную службу» II степени;
медаль «За безупречную службу» III степени.

Marc

[travel-north]

Thanks. If this how a veteran would normally wear his awards?

[Lapa]

Yes, that is the official way to wear them.

Marc

[CtahhR]

Althought this IS the official rundown in the Russian Federation (and other former Soviet nations), Other state awards blur the order of precedence. Not only that but awards from folks like "umalatova" and other awards confuse not only the person wearing and ordering them but the person observing.

Some 21st century chests can be a complete mystery to the person attaching the awards to them so if you were for example buy a jacket that a GPW veteran wore to the last "victory day" parade and was doubting it's authenticity due to awards being out of place you would just be paranoid.

There is NO convention between the former Soviet Union states as to what goes where and that is excluding the "organisations" that produce even more than all the "ministries" of all the former states put together....

If there were an order of precedence which included all the previously mentioned awards it would have to be updated on a daily basis.

But speaking of such things through English eyes even the Commonwealth order of precedence is open to vast discussion but that is a different story.

[Lapa]

CtahhR,

Originally Posted by CtahhR

...There is NO convention between the former Soviet Union states as to what goes where and that is excluding the "organisations" that produce even more than all the "ministries" of all the former states put together...

This is not quite true. Effectively, every former Soviet Republic came up with its own order of precedence, which precise how Soviet awards are to be worn per regulation with respect to current awards.

Originally Posted by CtahhR

If there were an order of precedence which included all the previously mentioned awards it would have to be updated on a daily basis...

Her again, there is a misconception. The order of precedence deals with official State awards. The unofficial "junk" is just that and is rightly not covered by a State order of precedence; we need here to note that "ministries" awards are official, but of a lower level and as such have full right of appearing next to higher States awards. Veteran organization, Umalatova and other "baubles" (here we go agains :D) have theoretically no right of being mixed up with the "real" ones. If it happens, it is through either tolerance or laxism on the part of the State.

Marc

[CtahhR]

So I am a Georgian GPW Vet... I have the following awards... Red Star, OPW2, CSM, Defence of Caucasus, Defence Of Kiev, Capture of Berlin, VOG, 20VOG, 30VOG, 40VOG, 50VOG, 60VOG, 65VOG, Medal "Zhukov", Belarus "50 Years Of Liberation", Ukrainian "50 Years Of Liberation", Ukrainian Order "For Bravery" 3rd Class (For Liberation), "Umalatova" GPW labour and 55VOG, the Georgian Medal 65 years of victory and Georgian Order "Honour". How do I wear these?

Good luck cos I have no idea....

[medals73]

As this is mainly a "Soviet" forum, I suspect the question (and the answer) were directed at the awards of the USSR during the period before the USSR ceased to exist. Throwing in post-1991 "stuff" (and I struggle here to use a "nice" word) just distorts things. I further suspect that after 1992 people just do whatever they want to (both at the governmental and individual level).

[CtahhR]

Fortunately or unfortunately we have a vast number of post Soviet Union awards. A great deal of them very valid.... and then the "organisational" flak.

There must be right and wrong ways to wear awards throughout the CIS.

[Lapa]

Originally Posted by medals73

...I further suspect that after 1992 people just do whatever they want to (both at the governmental and individual level).

Ed,

Not completely, no. As I mentioned, there are published rules in place.

Marc