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Old 12-12-2005, 02:59 PM   #1
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Labour Honour Medal.

The enamel ribbon for the Honorary Medal of Labor.

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Old 12-12-2005, 03:11 PM   #2
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The cloth ribbon for the Honorary Medal of Labor.

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Old 03-31-2010, 02:15 PM   #3
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Thanks for the detailed response! I asked because I was trying to establish if this was a more rare version of the medal and it doesn't look that way. Am I safe to assume the first Type 1's with the "No" are still the most sought after?
Well, when that first type (est. 1500 issued) is compared to a Suvorov 3rd class type 1 (est. 2760 issued) or a "Tractor" Lenin (est. 800 issued), . . . . And when/if/as research becomes available, those will have interesting tales to tell.

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Can we expect a similar level of detail in the next book? If so, I think that would address many of the questions that new collectors have.

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Gosh. I sure hope so. And more . . . . :rolleyes:

What do we want to know? What sorts of information?

And, back to your original question, no varieties of the Honorary Medal of Combat have turned up with similar stamped numbering, though there is that odd unnumbered variety (not the recent unnumbered escapee variety).

For a while I had thought that the labor medal's stamped numbering was the same as the 25th anniversary medal, but side-by-side the numbering on the anniversary medal is much smaller.

One more puzzle, but likely just a function of a production run (maybe 5000 medals?) that was done up differently.
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Old 09-14-2011, 04:09 PM   #4
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Re: Honorary Medal Of Labor

My favorite. (Even more so than my "No. 2"!) Awarded to: Erdeniin Gombosuren, 30 August 1956. Documented and boxed.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:24 PM   #5
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This medal . . .
And note, please, the number on the first one. :rolleyes:

Oops, it didn't clearly reference. This:
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:31 PM   #6
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Re: Honorary Medal Of Labor

Don't know. Doors remain closed. (But theoretical access remains.)

Sadly, the lowest number that Urnukh gives (p. 167) is #158.

Don't think "Big C" had room for it, even it were his.
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Well, the change in the obverse inscriptions (from Old Mongolian into Cyrillic) or the change of the medal's attachment device on the Mongolian medals including the Honorary Medal of Labor (HML) did not result in the withdrawal of the older types and re-issue of the new ones. It was apparently very expensive to withdraw HML with Old Mongolian inscription on the reverse and re-issue new ones. On the other hand, the need to award the HML steadily increased (compared to a Honorary Medal of Combat) with the expansion of Mongolia's economy (from 1960s) and ensuing numerous labor achievements. Therefore, the Presidium of the People's Great (later People's) khural, according to archival documents, barely managed to have the medals ordered and produced at the Moscow Mint and also delivered to Ulaanbaatar. I have posted a copy of the Certificate of Quality and packing list of the HML issued from the Moscow mint on August 5, 1965. Such documents always accompanied the newly produced orders and medals made at the Moscow Mint. The copy of the documents are from the Mongolian archives, see the stamp.

BTW, the medal quantities and serial numbers of the medals listed in the document are for the part of the HML with the stamped serial numbers on the reverses.

The scan is just a part of the numerous documents that are made in Russian and Mongolian for this specific package of the HML. There are other documents such as official letters, invoices, payment certificates, etc. The same goes for other orders and medals of the MPR.

I can later provide the interpretation of the documents. My book "the Orders and Medals of the Mongolian People's Republic: 1924-1992" is based on such archival documents.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM   #8
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Re: Honorary Medal Of Labor

A more detailed nomenclature follows. Battushig'a A38.2 is what is given as a type 1.2.1 below.

Type 1.1.1 (Screwback, Mongol bichig, numbered “No.”) Low = 2/High = 1499

Type 1.1.2 (Screwback, Mongol bichig, SN without prefix, seperately soldered ring) Low = 1557/High = 11953

Type 1.1.3 (Screwback, Mongol bichig, SN with "No" prefix above the SN) Low = 10663/High = 10668

Type 1.1.4 (Screwback, Mongol bichig, SN without prefix, ring part of the medal) Low = 12001/High = 16993

Type 1.2.1 (Screwback, Cyrillic, impressed number) Low = 16785/High = 21645

Type 1.2.2 (Screwback, Cyrillic, engraved number) Low = ??/High = ??

Type 2.1 (Pinback, ribbon) Low = 22468/High = 36295

Type 2.2.1 (Pinback, enameled ribbon, silver) Low = 737/High = 4892

Type 2.2.2 (Pinback,pentagonal enameled ribbon, bronze, unnumbered)

Type 2.2.3 (Pinback, enameled ribbon, silvered bronze) Low = 23750/High = 25236

Type 2.2.4 (Pinback, enameled ribbon, silvered bronze, unnumbered, unawarded escapee?)
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Hidden inside the box, and unknown to me at the time, were some additional documents.

1- "807.60 Tugrik and 4 rams were collected from the sheep herder Gombosuren. The collection is completed. The bookkeeper of the collective farm. Bamshav."

2. "-- The private petition to the trade union committee and administration through the chief of the second unit. I worked without interuption in the unit from 1950 to 1960, therefore I am asking that my working hours be written correctly into my labor book and that I receive the additional payment for the long working period. The private petitioner, the sheep herder of the second unit. Erdeniin Gombosuren."

3- Appended to her petition.
"-- Herewith I confirm that Erdeniin Gombosuren worked since 1950 in the pasture as sheep herder, cow herder. Senior veterinary. (left confirmation).
"-- Herewith is to confirm, that comrade Gombosuren is herding the animals since 1950. Herder (right)
"-- Herewith is to confirm, that Gombosuren is herding the animals. (down)

4- "-- To the Soum administration: Herewith to confirm, that the persons Chuluunjuu, Choijamts, Gombodorj who gave the confirmation on Gombosuren are themselves workers of the livestock farm. The confirmation on Gombosuren is correct, the confirmation is approved. The secretary of the Soum administration."
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