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Old 02-28-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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Ushakov,04534,Senior Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

Hi gentlemen,
these days I took this Medal, because even if very worn, and with the almost hidden by serial number 4534 in 1534, looking good it seemed genuine, and the price was really a small thing.
Your opinion I would be appreciated, and ask me additional photos.
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Old 02-28-2014, 11:58 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

With my usual disclaimer about not authenticating from photos I can say that the medal looks good. I believe the serial number is 4534. Could be a good candidate for research.

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Old 02-28-2014, 12:19 PM   #3
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

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With my usual disclaimer about not authenticating from photos I can say that the medal looks good. I believe the serial number is 4534. Could be a good candidate for research.

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Thanks Alexei, is very nice to receive your comment. :):):)

From the book of cavaliers of Ushiakov I found his name:

Медалью Ушакова № 4534 награжден старший краснофлотец Чемоданов Евгений Васильевич.
Приказ Командира Отдельной бригады сторожевых кораблей Черноморскоко флота № 1с от 17.08.1944.


That has allowed me to find the citation on PN.

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Old 02-28-2014, 12:27 PM   #4
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The suspension is very well built, but the chain does not seem the right one...
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:41 PM   #5
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I tend to think that the suspension is not genuine, but I would need to examine it personally. the chain also looks like a replacement.

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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

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Thanks for the additional pictures. Yup, the chain also looks like a replacement.

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I agree with you :thumbsup, but perhaps this section of chain may be the only native, because he is the only one that presents the classic metal streaks.
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:36 PM   #7
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

I am sorry, I can't tell for sure from photos. BTW, I have seen chains made with genuine flat links and replacement round links, so anything is possible.

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I am sorry, I can't tell for sure from photos. BTW, I have seen chains made with genuine flat links and replacement round links, so anything is possible.

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Thanks Alexei :cheers
I can do something to help in your evaluation?
Unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to show it to you in person, because marcotk, do not go to more regularly in the USA.
:idea maybe I can facilitate you with the scans?
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Re: Ushakov,04534,Senoir Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

Here is the original 3 page citation.

Awarded an OPW'85 II amongst others. A Record Card is a must.
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Re: Ushakov,04534,Senoir Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

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Here is the original 3 page citation.

Awarded an OPW'85 II amongst others. A Record Card is a must.
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Yes, I require the record as soon as possible, I waited because I wanted to be certain that the medal was ok.

This is the Order:
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