KGB presentation dagger

new world · 04-30-2003, 11:58 AM

Soviet KGB presentation dagger.

Size: 8.25" blade 12 5/16" overall length.

Serial number & KGB shield to ricasso.

Bright polished cast blade w/scroll work design on both sides, dark yellow composition grip w/inset plate having engraved detection, gilt plated S cross guard & pommel cap having engraved Soviet crest on back & 5 pointed star on top.

Includes black leather covered scabbered w/ gilt plated fittings, double ring belt hanger & applied Soviet state crest .

Comes in the orginal fitted hinged lid case

new world · 04-30-2003, 12:00 PM

KGB dagger case.

Note how different is this case from cases you'd normally see with Admiral daggers.

new world · 04-30-2003, 12:02 PM

KGB crest on teh dagger blade.

KGb crest looks odd.

Also, what are all those pot marks? The blade should be polished with no marks.

new world · 04-30-2003, 12:04 PM

Name plate with address:

"To honorary KGB employee Captain Polivanov S. S. from the KGB department staff"

new world · 04-30-2003, 12:06 PM

Soviet State crest on the scabbard.

Note soldering traces.

j h beers · 04-30-2003, 07:37 PM

Your dagger is quite interesting. I believe that I was offered this very same piece at one point in the last year or so by an emigre dealer at the Meadowlands militaria show in Union, NJ. As I recall, he was asking somewhere between three and four hundred dollars for it.

The sloppy aplication of the crest turned me off and the low price seemed strange, too.

DougD · 05-01-2003, 09:15 AM

As a dealer I have been offered a few of these daggers. I am very suspect of them. They are not well made and usually are very vauge on who got them and from whom they were issued, etc. Also, they tend to never have any other items with them from the same guy. I would not get involved with these or many other "KGB" items. Maybe Caza knows if the KGB even gave these out.

DD

new world · 05-01-2003, 09:20 AM

Gentlemen,

I agree with you - this dagger does not look real to me.

I already mentioned my concerns in the comment to the pictures and just wanted to get your opinions.

Best,
William

charlet · 05-01-2003, 09:52 AM

knowing the quality fabrication of even the last more common navy daggers, I do not see why the chrome metal should be so uglyly porous and the metal dedication plate crudely cut...these and yours doubts gentlemen make me infer it is an amazing fake.

Nota Bene · 05-01-2003, 05:16 PM

Gentlemen,

... and the funniest thing about this dagger is that the Soviet crest was cut out of a 5 kopeks coin. LOL!

Alexei

05-01-2003, 09:15 AM	#7
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	"KGB" As a dealer I have been offered a few of these daggers. I am very suspect of them. They are not well made and usually are very vauge on who got them and from whom they were issued, etc. Also, they tend to never have any other items with them from the same guy. I would not get involved with these or many other "KGB" items. Maybe Caza knows if the KGB even gave these out. DD

05-01-2003, 09:52 AM	#9
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	knowing the quality fabrication of even the last more common navy daggers, I do not see why the chrome metal should be so uglyly porous and the metal dedication plate crudely cut...these and yours doubts gentlemen make me infer it is an amazing fake. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

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04-30-2003, 07:37 PM	#6
j h beers Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 28	Your dagger is quite interesting. I believe that I was offered this very same piece at one point in the last year or so by an emigre dealer at the Meadowlands militaria show in Union, NJ. As I recall, he was asking somewhere between three and four hundred dollars for it. The sloppy aplication of the crest turned me off and the low price seemed strange, too.

05-01-2003, 09:20 AM	#8
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Gentlemen, I agree with you - this dagger does not look real to me. I already mentioned my concerns in the comment to the pictures and just wanted to get your opinions. Best, William

05-01-2003, 05:16 PM	#10
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Gentlemen, ... and the funniest thing about this dagger is that the Soviet crest was cut out of a 5 kopeks coin. LOL! Alexei

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