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dannybou · 02-09-2005, 11:43 AM

Just bought this RBL type 3 variation 1. The S/N is actually lower than the lowest recorded number in PMD's book. For your info.

Dolf · 02-09-2005, 01:47 PM

Danny,

According to the Mondvor site I guess it should be a T3V2, even thought the S/N is a bit lower than the lowest number they mention for this Variation (22,911). So yours should be now the lowest S/N ovserved for this Variation, I guess.
According to PMD it's indeed a T3V1, and yours is still the lowest S/N observed for this Variation! Bravo!
Beautiful piece! Congrats!

Rusty, can you please confirm this?

Thanks,

Dolf

HuliganRS · 02-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Guys,

According to MonDvor site:

T3V1 - 21061 - 27721 - No MM
T3V2 - 21016 - 25447 - Curved down Monetny in MM
T3V3 - 27632 - 28150 - Large MM
T3V4 - 30164 - 35225 - Although number 23,203 has been observed which is out of synch with this type. Danny's # 22,143 falls into the T3V4 with previously noted # 23,203.

Danny's mint mark is identical to a T3V4.

Rusty.

dannybou · 02-09-2005, 02:15 PM

Type 3 Variation 4 it is!! :)

HuliganRS · 02-09-2005, 02:17 PM

Danny,

Yours is only the second one observed!

Rusty.

Dolf · 02-09-2005, 02:41 PM

Guys,

Don't get it!
Doesn't it matches every charachteristic for a T3V2 ?
MM in the upper part, the curved down Monetny in MM (I didn't have this on my "Rusty Variations" for a V2!), and the S/N, even thought mine (your fault Rusty ;) ) was outdated.

So why a T3V4 ?

Thanks,

Dolf

HuliganRS · 02-09-2005, 02:48 PM

Dolf,

The great thing about the MonDvor site is that it's dynamic. Every time a new type or variation pops up the site is updated!

I usually check my list every few months...

Even though the S/N places this piece in an earlier type the MM and the characteristics of the piece place it in the later type.

Rusty.

dannybou · 02-11-2005, 11:35 AM

In checking the MM of the T3V4 on the mondvor site, I've noticed some slight differences with mine. It seems the T3V4 MM is more compressed and the serial number is engraved lower. Do these things make a difference? Definitely not a T3V2 as the MM is curved upwards.

02-11-2005, 04:35 PM

Hi everybody,

like to ad my UFO-RLB No. 25842.

The bottomline of Monetny looks just like the opposite to yours, Dannybou !

The scratches under the serial no. may be caused by repairing the star? It is slightly movable yet.

So this is this also T3V4 ?

Lapa · 03-26-2005, 12:30 PM

Gentlemen,

For your viewing enjoyment, a very unusual Order of the Red Banner of Labor Type 6 that I brought back from my last trip to St Petersburg. It is struck in brass.

Marc

02-09-2005, 01:47 PM	#22
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	Danny, According to the Mondvor site I guess it should be a T3V2, even thought the S/N is a bit lower than the lowest number they mention for this Variation (22,911). So yours should be now the lowest S/N ovserved for this Variation, I guess. According to PMD it's indeed a T3V1, and yours is still the lowest S/N observed for this Variation! Bravo! Beautiful piece! Congrats! Rusty, can you please confirm this? Thanks, Dolf Last edited by Dolf; 02-09-2005 at 01:53 PM.

02-09-2005, 02:05 PM	#23
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Guys, According to MonDvor site: T3V1 - 21061 - 27721 - No MM T3V2 - 21016 - 25447 - Curved down Monetny in MM T3V3 - 27632 - 28150 - Large MM T3V4 - 30164 - 35225 - Although number 23,203 has been observed which is out of synch with this type. Danny's # 22,143 falls into the T3V4 with previously noted # 23,203. Danny's mint mark is identical to a T3V4. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

02-09-2005, 02:15 PM	#24
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Type 3 Variation 4 it is!! :) __________________ A collector from Québec!!

02-09-2005, 02:17 PM	#25
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Danny, Yours is only the second one observed! Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

02-09-2005, 02:48 PM	#27
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Dolf, The great thing about the MonDvor site is that it's dynamic. Every time a new type or variation pops up the site is updated! I usually check my list every few months... Even though the S/N places this piece in an earlier type the MM and the characteristics of the piece place it in the later type. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

02-09-2005, 02:41 PM	#26
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	Guys, Don't get it! Doesn't it matches every charachteristic for a T3V2 ? MM in the upper part, the curved down Monetny in MM (I didn't have this on my "Rusty Variations" for a V2!), and the S/N, even thought mine (your fault Rusty ;) ) was outdated. So why a T3V4 ? Thanks, Dolf

02-11-2005, 11:35 AM	#28
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	In checking the MM of the T3V4 on the mondvor site, I've noticed some slight differences with mine. It seems the T3V4 MM is more compressed and the serial number is engraved lower. Do these things make a difference? Definitely not a T3V2 as the MM is curved upwards. __________________ A collector from Québec!!

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