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Old 11-14-2004, 01:26 AM   #11
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Hello Danny

There is this old fellow here in Vancouver that has a large collection of these pins and other types, he has been trying to sell at the local gun and military shows.
He wants like $125 per pin. Needless to say there is know one buying them.

I have no idea if there worth anywhere near that much???? And how to tell if they were ever issued to a cosmonuat.





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Are these originals Tal? Any value to them?
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:17 AM   #12
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I saw such wings in Tallinna yesterday at price of about 800 EEK (65 USD) each. I haven't seen such many of them before, but now they were available in several shops :(
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:45 PM   #13
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A set of three is being offered on e right now for $65. For that price I am tempted to pick them up. Thoughts? Comments?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:51 PM   #14
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99.9% fake...
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:05 PM   #15
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Glad I asked. I'll pass then. Thanks Rusty.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:08 PM   #16
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Danny,

Too expensive for copies, too cheap for genuine badges.

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Old 04-07-2005, 08:47 PM   #17
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Too expensive for copies, too cheap for genuine badges.

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That will explain why the seller is relisting them without selling them. I'm learning, I'm learning, thanks to you Guys!! :)
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Old 04-08-2005, 10:22 AM   #18
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What exactly do we mean by "fake" here?

Does anyone know if the wings that were actually given to the cosmonauts were any different in materials or construction?

In other words, we might see an Order of Lenin that is not made of gold and platinum; or a Hero Star made of gold, but lacking details that an original posesses; or a KGB badge that has obvioulsy poor enamel. In all of these cases we say "Fake"; that these were items made in an attempt to duplicate something else that was different in detail or construction.

But Shawn previously offered the opinion that these might be not be "fakes", but rather that whatever manufacturer that made them made LOTS of them, some going to cosmonauts, others going to collectors.

There are some dealers who sell U.S. astronaut wings. They come from the same manufacturer who makes them under government contract. In fact, they are exactly the same wings that an American astronaut receives, and can purchase for his use. So are these "fake" wings? No, they are, I suppose, "un-awarded examples".

So does anyone know the specifics on these cosmonaut wings? Do we have any information at all on whether the wings such as were offered on Ebay are different in any respects from the wings given to the cosmonauts?
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:32 PM   #19
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Cosmonuat badges

Are these real or fake?

I should note that these were purchased back in the late 80's.
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Ron,

I merged your thread into this one.

Read the info above. It applies to your wings.

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